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Old 02-26-2014, 05:03 PM   #6361
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Just received a first generation 417 in a trade. Does the gear diff II drop right in or are there other parts I need to purchase to swap out the ball diff? Car looks pretty much stock, any upgrades I need to buy to go asphalt racing on a low grip track?
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diff2 drops in with no problems...

aside from HPI silver springs and the large diameter spring cups car should be good to go.

i remember having to cut some sections of the top deck for more flex and traction (some when to the extent of cutting the motor mount as well).

a floating servo mount could give the car a more "updated" look to (Smokem makes one without the peg so you don't have to drill a hole in the chassis).
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:54 PM   #6362
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Much appreciated, thanks!
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Exclamation Black gear case.....

Anybody out there know of a place or has one to sell, a black gear diff case??..... Maybe the complete kit??...... I know Tamiya sells the casing alone but I have not seen just the black casing alone..... LMK....

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Anybody out there know of a place or has one to sell, a black gear diff case??..... Maybe the complete kit??...... I know Tamiya sells the casing alone but I have not seen just the black casing alone..... LMK....

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Hey Alex, check out spec r, they have black gear diffs.
http://www.spec-r.com/default/index....42&language=en
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:56 AM   #6365
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Doing some routine maintenance on a 417 front direct pulley and was wondering if it's possible to remove the Direct coupling off the Direct cup without destroying the cup?
The manual on section 7 suggests to cut/remove the lip on the cup so the coupling can slide off.
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Doing some routine maintenance on a 417 front direct pulley and was wondering if it's possible to remove the Direct coupling off the Direct cup without destroying the cup?
The manual on section 7 suggests to cut/remove the lip on the cup so the coupling can slide off.
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It is possible, but quite awkward. I replaced the Tamiya cups with aftermarket ones which tend to last longer anyway. Roche, Arena, Reflex Racing and others have options.

Other than that, I've regarded the standard ones as consumables

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Doing some routine maintenance on a 417 front direct pulley and was wondering if it's possible to remove the Direct coupling off the Direct cup without destroying the cup?
The manual on section 7 suggests to cut/remove the lip on the cup so the coupling can slide off.
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Don't remove the lip fully.
Leave about 2-3 mm lip material on each half of the cup (opposite to each other).
To remove it, just compress the lips on both halves.

You should also try putty in your front gear diff.
It will react almost like a spool, but has more turn in and less wear!
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Thanks for the info
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Hey Alex, check out spec r, they have black gear diffs.
http://www.spec-r.com/default/index....42&language=en
You could also dye a white one on the stove with RITT (or similar) clothes dye like the OCD blokes/nerds on Tamiya Club do.
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Selling a really nice 417x if anybody is looking for one. RTR or roller
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Selling a really nice 417x if anybody is looking for one. RTR or roller
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I've got a 417 with a smokem bottom deck running in 21.5 blinky novice.

Does anyone have or suggest a setup to use?

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asphalt or carpet? grip level? share more info on the track you run at...
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Its a low grip track, some sort of painted surface on concrete slab.
The race is run in the evenings and its under cover.

I wasn't sure how the Smokem deck changes the behaviour of the car.
My two boys both run 417v5's in the same class and track if that helps.
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Its a low grip track, some sort of painted surface on concrete slab.
The race is run in the evenings and its under cover.

I wasn't sure how the Smokem deck changes the behaviour of the car.
My two boys both run 417v5's in the same class and track if that helps.
Thanks
Amongst other things, check out Craig's setups here:
http://tchub.wordpress.com/category/setups/

Around Castle Hill, shortening the rear wheelbase helped my car get around the tighter corners pretty well.
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