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Old 01-21-2011, 07:50 AM   #616
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Lol let me refine my question. What part break the most n
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46mm steel dog bones for the front.
Titanium turnbuckles
1c and 1d front split hinge pin blocks (only needed in the front)
Aluminum adapter for the tamiya servo saver

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Rear Hubs (don't really break often if you place a set screw in the open camber hole)
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Suspension arms (don't brerak often but you should carry spares)
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:08 AM   #617
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I just started my build last night and need some info. On the center pulley, there are extra shims. Should I allow any play. I used the blue shim and 1x.02 shim and this leaves no play. Also any other tips I should be aware of.

Another question, can you reverse the gear pulleys so the belts are on the opposite sides which would give more battery room or does this take away too much space for the electronics? What is recommended?
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Old 01-21-2011, 09:38 AM   #618
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I just started my build last night and need some info. On the center pulley, there are extra shims. Should I allow any play. I used the blue shim and 1x.02 shim and this leaves no play. Also any other tips I should be aware of.

Another question, can you reverse the gear pulleys so the belts are on the opposite sides which would give more battery room or does this take away too much space for the electronics? What is recommended?
Shim till there is as little play as possible without binding up the assembly. Double check the shims are in the correct location, sometimes too many shims on one side will push the spur into the top deck.

I've heard the belt moved toward the battery gives the best balance. Since the electronic side is usually the heavy side. That being said, you can flip the belt to which ever side suits you best.

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I just started my build last night and need some info. On the center pulley, there are extra shims. Should I allow any play. I used the blue shim and 1x.02 shim and this leaves no play. Also any other tips I should be aware of.

Another question, can you reverse the gear pulleys so the belts are on the opposite sides which would give more battery room or does this take away too much space for the electronics? What is recommended?
just shim till it rolls freelly with no play mine took only one shim
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Ok, I used one shim also and it seems ok. I am waiting on the gear diff to come in. Will be running on carpet, 90x45 with great traction. What weight oil is recommended for the gear diff and I have HB spring set, what springs would be recommended to start. I used blue/f & silver/r on my Cyclone TC. Also any other building tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Shim till there is as little play as possible without binding up the assembly. Double check the shims are in the correct location, sometimes too many shims on one side will push the spur into the top deck.

I've heard the belt moved toward the battery gives the best balance. Since the electronic side is usually the heavy side. That being said, you can flip the belt to which ever side suits you best.
On the 417, you won't be able to do this, as the servo will get in the way of the front belt, and there is no provison for the outer servo mount hole (having said that, shoe-goo servo tape would mean you could do away with the mounts... but why? )
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On the 417, you won't be able to do this, as the servo will get in the way of the front belt, and there is no provison for the outer servo mount hole (having said that, shoe-goo servo tape would mean you could do away with the mounts... but why? )
Oops, I just assumed it was similar to the 416. Thanks for the clarification
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Also, kit comes with 111t & 113t spur gears. Is one better to use than the other. I have the full range of 64p pinions.
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Ok, I used one shim also and it seems ok. I am waiting on the gear diff to come in. Will be running on carpet, 90x45 with great traction. What weight oil is recommended for the gear diff and I have HB spring set, what springs would be recommended to start. I used blue/f & silver/r on my Cyclone TC. Also any other building tips would be greatly appreciated.
Put 1000w in it will work great ...as for springs just use the second carpet spring set that came with the kit they work good .
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It won't make much difference, they gave you two different size spur gears so you can fine tune the gear ratio to exact or get close to the ratio you want to run. I'd run 111, less rotating mass and pinion won't have to go up in size which could be possibly heavier.

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What is the advantage of using the split blocks up front?

And... are you using them up front in both positions?

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What is the advantage of using the split blocks up front?

And... are you using them up front in both positions?

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The advantage is you won't bend the suspension block if you crash a lot.... It may also allow a little more flex.
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anybody run this in stock spec 17.5? i know mod is better but until it gets warm i will be running indoors. So far i've been using my 416x for spec and would like to try my 417
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The advantage is you won't bend the suspension block if you crash a lot.... It may also allow a little more flex.
You will also clear the front drive belt from contacting the regular block. It's also easier to replace the belt if it's worn down.
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anybody run this in stock spec 17.5? i know mod is better but until it gets warm i will be running indoors. So far i've been using my 416x for spec and would like to try my 417
Works great in 17.5 no timing.
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