Tamiya TRF417
#6197
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
You can either take shims out of the front bulkhead or add shims to the c-hub
Why so narrow? B/B XB/C with no wheel shims is too narrow. C/C XA/E with 0.5mm wheel shims should be the starting setup for all tracks. You've also got about 1mm too much front droop which also causes push on power
How can I get my car to have more initial steering, if that is the proper description? My car pushes on corner entry when on power. And it pushes on corner exit when on power as well.
417v5
Sorex 32
TRF dampers with 32.5
HPI silver springs
5.5 ride height
4.5 droop measured with under the arm
.5 under suspension blocks
b/split b (front)
xb/c rear (2.5 rear toe in)
.5 front toe in per side
roughly 25 degrees of steering throw
Tamiya aluminum servo saver horn using kit springs (link)
shocks are in hole 4
-1.5 front camber
-2.0 rear camber
no wheel spacers
stock sway bars
3k diff oil
front spool
3mm shim under inside front camber link
All other settings per the manual
Airtronics MT-4 with 92524
Tekin 17.5 Gen2 blinky
Tekin RS Gen2
Things I've tried with no real success:
- changed Savox 1251 to 1258
- took sway bars off
- turned the steering expo all the way up
- v5 shocks with Tamiya springs (front 32.5/white) (rear 25/white/yellow)
- stood front shocks up to hole 6
- removed 4 screws (inside) from the top deck
- drag brake between 0 and 30%
A friend has a v5 that has incredible steering with a mostly stock setup (no sway bars) but for the life of me, I can't get mine to turn like his does. I even put his RX in and tried it with his TX (different brand).
The strange thing is I rebuilt the car and went to Tamiya in LA 2 weeks ago for the Speedtech race and the car ran awesome. Ran the next week at home on our sealed parking lot track and it was back to usual; push monster.
417v5
Sorex 32
TRF dampers with 32.5
HPI silver springs
5.5 ride height
4.5 droop measured with under the arm
.5 under suspension blocks
b/split b (front)
xb/c rear (2.5 rear toe in)
.5 front toe in per side
roughly 25 degrees of steering throw
Tamiya aluminum servo saver horn using kit springs (link)
shocks are in hole 4
-1.5 front camber
-2.0 rear camber
no wheel spacers
stock sway bars
3k diff oil
front spool
3mm shim under inside front camber link
All other settings per the manual
Airtronics MT-4 with 92524
Tekin 17.5 Gen2 blinky
Tekin RS Gen2
Things I've tried with no real success:
- changed Savox 1251 to 1258
- took sway bars off
- turned the steering expo all the way up
- v5 shocks with Tamiya springs (front 32.5/white) (rear 25/white/yellow)
- stood front shocks up to hole 6
- removed 4 screws (inside) from the top deck
- drag brake between 0 and 30%
A friend has a v5 that has incredible steering with a mostly stock setup (no sway bars) but for the life of me, I can't get mine to turn like his does. I even put his RX in and tried it with his TX (different brand).
The strange thing is I rebuilt the car and went to Tamiya in LA 2 weeks ago for the Speedtech race and the car ran awesome. Ran the next week at home on our sealed parking lot track and it was back to usual; push monster.
#6198
Tech Adept
iTrader: (5)
In this case, would it be okay to make both changes at once (widen and reduce droop)?
Thanks Craig.
#6200
Increasing the camber link angle (at either end) increases camber gain which provides more traction grip as the car rolls. It's most noticeable from mid corner to exit when the car is rolling the most.
I think the effect of the roll centre change is negligible when we're talking about 0.5mm-1mm difference on the camber link. If I want to change RC I always use shims under the suspension blocks.
I think the effect of the roll centre change is negligible when we're talking about 0.5mm-1mm difference on the camber link. If I want to change RC I always use shims under the suspension blocks.
Sorry to be a pain in the ass
So you are saying that it's best to reduce shim size from under the block ???
I do have a 1mm under the. F/f & f/r
#6202
Tech Master
iTrader: (32)
You can either take shims out of the front bulkhead or add shims to the c-hub
Why so narrow? B/B XB/C with no wheel shims is too narrow. C/C XA/E with 0.5mm wheel shims should be the starting setup for all tracks. You've also got about 1mm too much front droop which also causes push on power
Why so narrow? B/B XB/C with no wheel shims is too narrow. C/C XA/E with 0.5mm wheel shims should be the starting setup for all tracks. You've also got about 1mm too much front droop which also causes push on power
Toe that sucker out too if you want more initial steering. That's probably what you're missing.
#6203
craig - would be perfect sharing set up. I run v5 have all type of susp blocks. Now we race at carpet med-high grip, springtime on asphalt low-mid grip. Both track dize is approx a handball field max (13-14mp/lap, carson 12t set). Thanks
#6207
Thanks
#6208
I run a 417x as well. Tips would be great craig!!
#6209
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
1mm is a lot under the blocks but if your setup works then don't change it
I always run split because it's easier to drive. 1pc can give a bit more rotation/corner speed