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Old 10-26-2013, 10:47 AM   #6166
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So I want to switch to using the separate suspension blocks on my 417 but I don't see either on the Tamiya site or the TQ racing site any references to what the toe angle differences are between say the 1A-1XA and the 1B-1XB? Does anyone have a link to a chart or a page that gives these angles? Also the one piece block the car came with is 1C so I'm assuming if I wanted the same toe angle I would buy the 1C-1XC separate mounts?

If I wanted to switch to an aluminum servo horn which is the best to use on the 417? I have a Savox SC-1258TG servo installed.

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Old 10-26-2013, 01:34 PM   #6167
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can the split blocks give different toe by changing the order?i mean...1b-xb or xb-1b..blocks are assymetric if i am correct. Per manual "x" side is closer to the edge...which gave B toe (0degree)...what if i change it?thx
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So I want to switch to using the separate suspension blocks on my 417 but I don't see either on the Tamiya site or the TQ racing site any references to what the toe angle differences are between say the 1A-1XA and the 1B-1XB? Does anyone have a link to a chart or a page that gives these angles? Also the one piece block the car came with is 1C so I'm assuming if I wanted the same toe angle I would buy the 1C-1XC separate mounts?

If I wanted to switch to an aluminum servo horn which is the best to use on the 417? I have a Savox SC-1258TG servo installed.

Thx, Jeff
The split blocks are reversible. So a 1a -1xa set is able to give the same effect as a 1A block or if you swap them around (the left with the right, same orientation) it will then be a 1XA equivalent.

As to a servo horn Tamiya make a nice blue alloy horn. For the Savox you need the futaba horn.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:08 PM   #6169
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The split blocks are reversible. So a 1a -1xa set is able to give the same effect as a 1A block or if you swap them around (the left with the right, same orientation) it will then be a 1XA equivalent.

As to a servo horn Tamiya make a nice blue alloy horn. For the Savox you need the futaba horn.
What is the difference though between 1A and 1XA? i.e. Is it a half a degree of toe if you reverse them?

Also I mainly run on a medium grip carpet track, should I only run split blocks in the front or also in the rear?
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:20 PM   #6170
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What is the difference though between 1A and 1XA? i.e. Is it a half a degree of toe if you reverse them?

Also I mainly run on a medium grip carpet track, should I only run split blocks in the front or also in the rear?
One degree because it jumps up 2 sizes.

XA-X-A = 1 Degree
X-A = 0.5 Degree
XA-X = 0.5 Degree

Each size up is 0.5 degree.
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:23 PM   #6171
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Or just use this toe chart guide...
https://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/s...e#.UmxdB_mTh8E
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:02 PM   #6172
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Or just use this toe chart guide...
https://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/s...e#.UmxdB_mTh8E
This is perfect!!!! Just what I was looking for.

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Old 10-28-2013, 05:37 PM   #6173
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if anyone has a tamiya aluminum shock cap in blue i would like to buy it. part # is tam-49308 just trying to put them on a spare set of shocks i have.
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...so I did this change on my front and rear sway bars with the TA06 med/med set up. Will this handle differently than the original style?



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...so I did this change on my front and rear sway bars with the TA06 med/med set up. Will this handle differently than the original style?
You wont notice any differences solely on changing just the sway bar mount. They are just a lot easier to adjust
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You wont notice any differences solely on changing just the sway bar mount. They are just a lot easier to adjust
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...so I did this change on my front and rear sway bars with the TA06 med/med set up. Will this handle differently than the original style?
Personally, I think it will make a difference as the leverage point is a bit shorter - ie where the set screw clamps down onto the swaybar.
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The bar will be stiffer from the shorter end, but you've also decreased the leverage that the bar has on the control arm. They will cancel each other out somewhat, but I don't know the math or measurements to figure out which one wins.

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Old 10-29-2013, 07:25 AM   #6179
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Just wondering about the sway bars because it looks like the 418 is like this.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:28 AM   #6180
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I know the arms are different but going to see if I can tell the difference.
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