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Old 04-15-2013, 11:33 PM   #5086
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There's a lot more to come with some setup work, I sort of feel like I'm starting from square 1 again with a new car
Hi Craig,

I also ordered the Raceberry conversion kit now with the softer chassis. It should arrive this week, I'm really excited.

If you already have some kind of "base setup" for that configuration (417X converted to Raceberry, soft chassis), could you post it (here or at petitrc)?

For the Raceberry kit I have to raise the bulkheads by 0.5mm, so I would have to remove 0.5mm under the inner camber links to keep my rollcenter adjustment, if I'm starting with a original 417X setup, right?

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Old 04-16-2013, 12:58 AM   #5087
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yes drop your camber links by 0.5mm! I don't have a setup I'm happy enough to publish yet, hopefully this weekend I'll get to test more. I started with Vik's ets setup but with normal springs sway bars and wheel shims

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Hi guys, having a trf417v5, will a full hudy setup station be useful or do i just need gauge, etc. what are the most useful tool/s needed for tuning this car?
I use the tweak station as much as I use the camber and toe gauges. Obviously droop and right height gauges are used more but I believe you need a tweak station if you want to get the most out of your car
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It seems a bit weird to me raising the bulkheads as a rule, i have been experimenting with low profile shock towers (and TRF mini shocks) for a really low COG, I assume the raising of the bulkheads are just to fit in the Yokomo parts more than any actual handling benefits.
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Old 04-16-2013, 05:00 AM   #5089
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does anyone know where to purchase a 417 v5 besides ebay? They are sold out everywhere that is at a decent price.
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It seems a bit weird to me raising the bulkheads as a rule...
I had the same thought. If you'd leave the bulkheads directly on the chassis, you'd have to add 2.5mm of shims under the top deck and it should fit?!?!

This would have the advantage that one could keep the inner camber link, dampers a.s.o. like in the original 417X setups, the center of gravity would be lower and I guess that the whole car should be less prone to tweaking without a shim between the chassis and the bulkheads.

So I'd be interested what the reasoning behind the idea of raising the bulkheads is.

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I had the same thought. If you'd leave the bulkheads directly on the chassis, you'd have to add 2.5mm of shims under the top deck and it should fit?!?!

This would have the advantage that one could keep the inner camber link, dampers a.s.o. like in the original 417X setups, the center of gravity would be lower and I guess that the whole car should be less prone to tweaking without a shim between the chassis and the bulkheads.

So I'd be interested what the reasoning behind the idea of raising the bulkheads is.

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The idea came from the worlds that required the car to be good in runs on used tires without traction compound. According to Jilles, raising the bulkheads gives more traction on used tires in the absence of traction compound. Also according to him, the advantage is lost if new tires and traction compound are used.

Marc rheinard actually mounted 417x bulkheads in the rear at TITC on the V5. On my 417x I only upgraded the chassis and servo holder to the V5 and run it with the regular 417x bulkheads and shock towers. I like the car that way.
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I had the same thought. If you'd leave the bulkheads directly on the chassis, you'd have to add 2.5mm of shims under the top deck and it should fit?!?!
Hi Christian,
raced mine this weekend this way with the hard Raceberry chassis. Itīs possible Iīd say, car felt really good to me even this way. But, couldnīt compare it to raised bulkheads yet, as I run out of 0,5mm shims.

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It seems a bit weird to me raising the bulkheads as a rule, i have been experimenting with low profile shock towers (and TRF mini shocks) for a really low COG, I assume the raising of the bulkheads are just to fit in the Yokomo parts more than any actual handling benefits.
Thought also about this after seeing the first t4īs. What shock towers did you use, handmade? Any pics of your car, and how did it feel?

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Im in Australia. Do these shops have english versions of their webshops. Can't understand anything in japanese...
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Hi Christian,
raced mine this weekend this way with the hard Raceberry chassis. Itīs possible Iīd say, car felt really good to me even this way. But, couldnīt compare it to raised bulkheads yet, as I run out of 0,5mm shims.



Thought also about this after seeing the first t4īs. What shock towers did you use, handmade? Any pics of your car, and how did it feel?

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Hi mate here is a pic of mine There's a guy in Melbourne oz that does the mods he's on Facebook look for Bezerk. Also raceberry do them to.
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Hi mate here is a pic of mine There's a guy in Melbourne oz that does the mods he's on Facebook look for Bezerk. Also raceberry do them to.

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Im in Australia. Do these shops have english versions of their webshops. Can't understand anything in japanese...
RC Market have them for US$520, but don't mention what their stock levels are:

http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....ducts_id=14085
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Im in Australia. Do these shops have english versions of their webshops. Can't understand anything in japanese...

PM a user named DZ in the Australian section, he has a NIB v5 for sale. Would be much cheaper than buying and shipping to Aus.
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Hi mate here is a pic of mine There's a guy in Melbourne oz that does the mods he's on Facebook look for Bezerk. Also raceberry do them to.
What springs are you running on your mini shocks? as tamiya mini springs are quite alot softer than the TC equivalents.
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