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Old 03-07-2013, 07:13 PM   #4861
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:36 PM   #4862
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Anybody know whats the spring rates for the tamiya carpet white and blue springs that is included in the 417x kit as bonus parts? Thanks!
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:24 PM   #4863
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Joey, a question and a comment....... I see you mounted your RX and ESC toward the front of the car. Wouldn't you want it toward the back to speed up corner rotation?

You fan will move more air if you move it back another 5-8mm from the motor can. The fan output will be somewhat stalled being that close to the motor IMO.

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Last season I ran the esc and rx back, I had too much rotation (we all drive different). I want to try something different. The fan is not mounted yet. It's just sitting there waiting for some tape.

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Old 03-07-2013, 11:27 PM   #4864
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What TAMIYA spring are similar to HPI silvers?
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:49 PM   #4865
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What TAMIYA spring are similar to HPI silvers?
AFAIK none. These are the HPI and Tamiya spring rates that i know of:

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HPI
Spring            [lb/in]    [gf/mm]
Red                22,40    400,00
Yellow            21,73    388,00
White            20,33    363,00
Gold            19,04    340,00
Pink            17,92    320,00
Silver            16,91    302,00
Blue            15,29    273,00

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Spring            [lb/in]    [gf/mm]
Purple            22,72    405,73
Gray            20,91    373,41
White Short        17,24    307,87
Blue Short        15,27    272,69
White            14,82    264,65
Blue            14,08    251,44
Yellow            13,33    238,05
Red    Short        13,24    236,44
Yellow Short    12,90    230,37
Red                11,86    211,80
...dammn, I can't get this bbs to display a proper table >:-( ...

You'll find a more complete table of spring rates attached, including Yokomo, RIDE, 3Racing, TOP and other springs...

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Spring Rates.zip
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:12 AM   #4866
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Has anyone tried the difference between standard 417 motor bulkhead and 417X or V5? In my opinion it will change the rear flex....any experience?
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:53 AM   #4867
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i keep seeing the raceberry parts, is there a link to there site or anything? i cant find anything
I also wondered where those raceberry parts would be from, so I searched a bit and found out that "RACEBERRY - luxury RC auxiliaries" is indeed a new german manufacturer of rc upgrade parts. So I contacted Bernd Wellerdiek who is the founder and engineer behind that company and asked him about their Tamiya upgrades.

He was very helpful and told me that they would soon release a TRF417 conversion kit, consisting mainly of their own carbon chassis (upper and lower deck) plus some Yokomo parts (motormount, center bulkhead...). The (complete) conversion kit and probably other parts will be distributed by Toni Reinhards shop (http://www.fast-webshop.com/tonisport). The product description should be up on their website soon.

When I asked Bernd about some technical details on the raceberry chassis, he told me (rough translation): "The lower deck has a quite similar shape as the original 417V5 chassis, but it uses a different carbon structure, just like the top deck. The top deck features a very different shape and is a completely new and original development. The main problem with the original model is, that it doesn't produce enough mechanical grip. Our conversion kit features more flex in the area of the front as well as at the rear axle. Further we defined narrower flexzones, which makes the car work more exact..."

Sounds quite promising to me and they already have delivered. Gilles Groskamp used their chassis at TITC, Victor Wilck and Marc Reinhard had it at the ETS in Gran Canaria. All of them with great success, which seemed a bit unusual for Tamiya recently.

A website is in the making, but not quite ready. In the meantime you can contact Bernd via email at raceberry(at)web.de or contact Tonisport for a preorder.

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Old 03-08-2013, 07:35 AM   #4868
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AFAIK none. These are the HPI and Tamiya spring rates that i know of:

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HPI
Spring            [lb/in]    [gf/mm]
Red                22,40    400,00
Yellow            21,73    388,00
White            20,33    363,00
Gold            19,04    340,00
Pink            17,92    320,00
Silver            16,91    302,00
Blue            15,29    273,00

Tamiya
Spring            [lb/in]    [gf/mm]
Purple            22,72    405,73
Gray            20,91    373,41
White Short        17,24    307,87
Blue Short        15,27    272,69
White            14,82    264,65
Blue            14,08    251,44
Yellow            13,33    238,05
Red    Short        13,24    236,44
Yellow Short    12,90    230,37
Red                11,86    211,80
...dammn, I can't get this bbs to display a proper table >:-( ...

You'll find a more complete table of spring rates attached, including Yokomo, RIDE, 3Racing, TOP and other springs...

Christian

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Thanks Christian
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:17 AM   #4869
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It really does seem like the other manufacturers have figured something out with chassis flex that Tamiya has been missing. The cars haven't been very good on carpet, and don't seem to have the same edge on asphalt they used to. Hopefully Kiyo can fix that. It's good to see raceberry stepping up though.
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There is no way those yokomo parts will stay on the team cars for long, I'm sure we'll see an original tamiya version soon
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So far the race berry set has only been used on asphalt. It will be interesting to see how it does on Carpet. I really like the original 417 on carpet (solid, not cut motor mount). I also the v5 is meant to be great on mid grip carpet I haven't tried mine yet.
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Anyone got any pictures of there low profile shock towers?
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I haven't even ran my V5 yet and I keep hearing about how little grip it has. Is it really that bad? I sure hope not. It was a very very expensive build. Everything on it but the receiver is brand new. I came from a TCXX and before that t3 2012.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:35 PM   #4874
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Please forgive me if this has already been asked. TamiyaUSA has the TRF417 Chassis Kit - w/Gear Differential Unit II on sale for $399.99. Is this kit as good or almost as good as the V5 ($600+)? I would just be an average club racer running on an asphalt parking lot. Thanks
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Please forgive me if this has already been asked. TamiyaUSA has the TRF417 Chassis Kit - w/Gear Differential Unit II on sale for $399.99. Is this kit as good or almost as good as the V5 ($600+)? I would just be an average club racer running on an asphalt parking lot. Thanks
Great price and great car~! get it~! I also have that same kit.
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