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Old 01-30-2013, 11:16 AM   #4666
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Just wondering guys what are the best trf shocks for on road at the moment, the real options I think are the black ones or ul?ones but u tamiya guys know best, obviously the v5 ones is just have different tops

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can someone explain to me how arm sweep affects the handling of the car. I currently run 1c 1c on the front but noticed that alot of people are running 1c 1b andf wondered how this affects the car
Less initial steering, more steering mid to exit
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:35 PM   #4668
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Just looked again the black ones or worlds ones I think are the only 2 available now new. Opinions or other options apreciated thanks again J
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:48 AM   #4669
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Quick 417V5 comparison to the 417X

http://tamiyatorg.blogspot.com/2013/...omparison.html
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Thats so cool its not even funny, awesome job!

One other thing is the difference in setup. V5 is 0.75mm narrower at the blocks and has another 1mm of Ackerman plus 1mm less front wheelbase
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:16 AM   #4671
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So, now that the V5 kit is in the hands of a few guys, I am wondering about something that I am sure others will want to know as well, will the V5 lower deck fit onto a 417X?

I have a standard 417X, and was thinking about getting a Smokem 417MX chassis for it, as I race exclusively on carpet, and want to try a stiffer chassis. If the V5 lower deck (and servo mount) is a direct fit, then I will look at that option instead, as I have seem them available as individual items now from Hong Kong. The only concern that I have, is that I've seen a comment stating that the V5 motor mount raises the motor slightly higher than the X mount does, and so the cutout/groove under the motor isn't as deep on the V5 Lower deck as it is on the X.

So would the V5 lower deck work on an X, without causing motor clearance issues, and without having to also change the top deck/motor mount/lower bulkheads as well?
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Some TRF417V5 Spare parts arrived
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:46 AM   #4673
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So, now that the V5 kit is in the hands of a few guys, I am wondering about something that I am sure others will want to know as well, will the V5 lower deck fit onto a 417X?

I have a standard 417X, and was thinking about getting a Smokem 417MX chassis for it, as I race exclusively on carpet, and want to try a stiffer chassis. If the V5 lower deck (and servo mount) is a direct fit, then I will look at that option instead, as I have seem them available as individual items now from Hong Kong. The only concern that I have, is that I've seen a comment stating that the V5 motor mount raises the motor slightly higher than the X mount does, and so the cutout/groove under the motor isn't as deep on the V5 Lower deck as it is on the X.

So would the V5 lower deck work on an X, without causing motor clearance issues, and without having to also change the top deck/motor mount/lower bulkheads as well?
Im quite sure that you can use the lower deck on a 417X. Still remember to use the new servo mount also. Im using the smokem mx chassis on high traction carpet at the moment and i like it. not faster than the standart 417 chassis but more easy and directly to drive.
if theres a mistake please correct me
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:23 PM   #4674
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Would changing the front sway bar to soft from medium help with reducing under steer? Running a 417x on medium grip carpet.
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I would look at either softening the front spring or moving the shock in one position towards the centre before changing the sway bar.
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So, now that the V5 kit is in the hands of a few guys, I am wondering about something that I am sure others will want to know as well, will the V5 lower deck fit onto a 417X?

I have a standard 417X, and was thinking about getting a Smokem 417MX chassis for it, as I race exclusively on carpet, and want to try a stiffer chassis. If the V5 lower deck (and servo mount) is a direct fit, then I will look at that option instead, as I have seem them available as individual items now from Hong Kong. The only concern that I have, is that I've seen a comment stating that the V5 motor mount raises the motor slightly higher than the X mount does, and so the cutout/groove under the motor isn't as deep on the V5 Lower deck as it is on the X.

So would the V5 lower deck work on an X, without causing motor clearance issues, and without having to also change the top deck/motor mount/lower bulkheads as well?
I don't think you will have some issues with motor, because in the Jilles' topic, somebody ask if the motor had been raised up and he replied that the motor height is unchanged, just the center pulley is 1 mm higher.
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I don't think you will have some issues with motor, because in the Jilles' topic, somebody ask if the motor had been raised up and he replied that the motor height is unchanged, just the center pulley is 1 mm higher.
This is what he said 'The V5 motormount is 1mm higher then the 417X but the motor position is same as 417X. At the Worlds we ran 1mm higher motor position. The key pins under the motormount are for less tweak .'

can someone clarify if the ride reds and blues are softer than HPI silver springs(silver colour) ?
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This is what he said 'The V5 motormount is 1mm higher then the 417X but the motor position is same as 417X. At the Worlds we ran 1mm higher motor position. The key pins under the motormount are for less tweak .'

can someone clarify if the ride reds and blues are softer than HPI silver springs(silver colour) ?
Red harder/blue softer. The reds are very similar spring rate but feel quite different on track to the HPIs
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Red harder/blue softer. The reds are very similar spring rate but feel quite different on track to the HPIs
I was running allot of droop and more front droop than rear to get the grip i wanted with the HPI silvers. Tried the ride blues with less droop all round and it was better, but neglected to try the reds, i'll give them a try. Thanks
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Hi guys,
I was thinking to convert my x to v5, and when I was considering the lower deck. About it I work out two possibilities:
1) new tamiya lower deck with trf floating servo mount
2) smokem 417mx with 417ctr smokem floating servo mount
Which one would you suggest me?
thanks fo help
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