Tamiya TRF417
#3976
Tech Regular
Anyone know what size the standard driveshaft blades are, if so does anyone use anything other than the tamiya ones
#3977
Tech Elite
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#3978
The 417 is a lot more rear biased than the tc6. The motor, and battery are a good 6-8 mm further back than on the tc6. The rsd6 is somewhere in between as the battery can be moved back 5mm vs the tc6. Geometry wise the 6.1 arms are almost a copy from the trf ones, but the upper rear hub position is 2-3mm further out in the 6.1
Diff position is also another thing that is different as well. The tc6's diffs are either higher than the lowest 417 or a bit higher. I feel like it lacks an in between position.
Lastly, the wheelbase is a lot longer on the tc6 in std setting.
At the moment, they are both fast, very similar laptimes. The rsd6 feels more locked in on the track, while the 417 feels like it has more corner speed, however the lap times come out so close it's not funny.
I am trying to replicate the geometry of the 417 on the rsd6 to see what the effect on the car is. The rsd6 is narrower and the motor does not overhang as far out. So it will be interesting to ser what happens.
Diff position is also another thing that is different as well. The tc6's diffs are either higher than the lowest 417 or a bit higher. I feel like it lacks an in between position.
Lastly, the wheelbase is a lot longer on the tc6 in std setting.
At the moment, they are both fast, very similar laptimes. The rsd6 feels more locked in on the track, while the 417 feels like it has more corner speed, however the lap times come out so close it's not funny.
I am trying to replicate the geometry of the 417 on the rsd6 to see what the effect on the car is. The rsd6 is narrower and the motor does not overhang as far out. So it will be interesting to ser what happens.
#3979
Anyone know if a new 417 version is coming down the pipe? Never mind I see it's coming. Any dates?
Last edited by RCknight; 10-03-2012 at 01:50 AM. Reason: found info.
#3980
#3981
Tech Elite
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Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think aeration dampers have a bleed valve and no bladder - I'm unsure of specific benefits. DCJ's are double-jointed universals, currently available as aftermarket hop-up: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42216 - benefit here is more efficiency at higher steering throw angles.
On a side note, I see that metal gears are now an option for the gear diff: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=54428
On a side note, I see that metal gears are now an option for the gear diff: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=54428
#3982
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#3983
Tech Regular
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think aeration dampers have a bleed valve and no bladder - I'm unsure of specific benefits. DCJ's are double-jointed universals, currently available as aftermarket hop-up: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=42216 - benefit here is more efficiency at higher steering throw angles.
On a side note, I see that metal gears are now an option for the gear diff: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=54428
On a side note, I see that metal gears are now an option for the gear diff: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=54428
#3984
I would hope that these are just machined properly and do not require any filing sanding or other crap to make it work.
#3985
Tech Adept
Howevery I just remove the small taps from the big bevel gear, and place 1x0,3 on one side and 1x0,2 on the other. Also i place 1x0,2 on both outers sides of the gear case.
maybe thats the way to go with the new steel gears.
#3986
Tech Adept
I am racing indoors this winter on sorex 28, so anyone have a good base capet setup for a 417x.
Cheers
Cheers
#3987
Anyone know where I can get the complet engine motor mounts for the 417x at
Can't seems to find then at any shop
Can't seems to find then at any shop
#3988
Tech Regular
#3989
Tech Champion
iTrader: (4)
The 417 is a lot more rear biased than the tc6. The motor, and battery are a good 6-8 mm further back than on the tc6. The rsd6 is somewhere in between as the battery can be moved back 5mm vs the tc6. Geometry wise the 6.1 arms are almost a copy from the trf ones, but the upper rear hub position is 2-3mm further out in the 6.1
Diff position is also another thing that is different as well. The tc6's diffs are either higher than the lowest 417 or a bit higher. I feel like it lacks an in between position.
Lastly, the wheelbase is a lot longer on the tc6 in std setting.
At the moment, they are both fast, very similar laptimes. The rsd6 feels more locked in on the track, while the 417 feels like it has more corner speed, however the lap times come out so close it's not funny.
I am trying to replicate the geometry of the 417 on the rsd6 to see what the effect on the car is. The rsd6 is narrower and the motor does not overhang as far out. So it will be interesting to ser what happens.
Diff position is also another thing that is different as well. The tc6's diffs are either higher than the lowest 417 or a bit higher. I feel like it lacks an in between position.
Lastly, the wheelbase is a lot longer on the tc6 in std setting.
At the moment, they are both fast, very similar laptimes. The rsd6 feels more locked in on the track, while the 417 feels like it has more corner speed, however the lap times come out so close it's not funny.
I am trying to replicate the geometry of the 417 on the rsd6 to see what the effect on the car is. The rsd6 is narrower and the motor does not overhang as far out. So it will be interesting to ser what happens.
BTW, I am not cyber stalking you Christian...just looking for a new Sedan. Really impressed with your work!
#3990
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
Quiet in here, is everyone too busy going fast?
I had a brief run with the new Smokem chassis on my spare car recently. I was really surprised not to loose on power grip because the chassis is much stiffer when flexed by hand. Compared to the X chassis it seems smoother and provides a bit more bite, but the X has a bit more low speed steering with the same setup. So a good first impression, looking forward to doing some more testing.
I also picked up some of the RSD springs, bladders, and orings so I'll get them tested and report back soon. This weekend is our state titles event so every 10th will count!
I had a brief run with the new Smokem chassis on my spare car recently. I was really surprised not to loose on power grip because the chassis is much stiffer when flexed by hand. Compared to the X chassis it seems smoother and provides a bit more bite, but the X has a bit more low speed steering with the same setup. So a good first impression, looking forward to doing some more testing.
I also picked up some of the RSD springs, bladders, and orings so I'll get them tested and report back soon. This weekend is our state titles event so every 10th will count!