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Old 09-20-2012, 04:40 AM   #3931
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This discussion interest me, why would you set your toe using the suspension mount instead of using your steering linkage? What is your final toe on the front of the car?

I was planning to set mine up with the following:
front toe +2
front camber -1.5
2 holes damper with soft oil and medium spring

rear toe -4
rear camber -1.5
3 holes damper with soft oil and soft spring

The track I race in is medium size track in Adelaide, half technical half speed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Run 1 deg toe out, C/B + XA/E blocks (inboard split), 3 hole pistons front and rear, 450 oil front rear, HPI silver front and rear, camber 1.5/2, and then go talk to Ant C for the rest of the setup

As Phil mentioned, toe angle and inboard toe are different things

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Others might come up with better explanations, but with regard to sweep, have a careful read of this. Toe and sweep are related, but distinct tuning options. I can't say I understand them, but guys like Craig are consistently fast, so I tend to listen to them.

On that basis, check out Craig's setups, which are well suited to medium outdoor tracks, just like our home track at SMA. His blog at http://tchub.wordpress.com/ is worth having a look at.

For a personal introduction, come over for the NSW State Titles in October

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Thanks Phil. Some of those experimental setups are a bit mongo, I'll post a couple new ones soon but TBH you really can't go wrong with Marc and Viktors RROC setups for most med bite tracks.
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Run 1 deg toe out, C/B + XA/E blocks (inboard split), 3 hole pistons front and rear, 450 oil front rear, HPI silver front and rear, camber 1.5/2, and then go talk to Ant C for the rest of the setup

As Phil mentioned, toe angle and inboard toe are different things


Thanks Phil. Some of those experimental setups are a bit mongo, I'll post a couple new ones soon but TBH you really can't go wrong with Marc and Viktors RROC setups for most med bite tracks.
What about wheel base? Whats effect with shorter or longer wheel base.....
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:42 AM   #3933
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Ant C drives a Yokomo ATM... He doesn't want to be known as a Tamiya Fan ATM... :P
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Thanks Craig,
now all is clear.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:56 PM   #3935
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What about wheel base? Whats effect with shorter or longer wheel base.....
It makes the wheels closer together or further apart
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:36 PM   #3936
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It makes the wheels closer together or further apart
SWB vs LWB. LWB normally may tend produce understeer. SWB may tend to produce oversteer. However, this can be corrected with other tweaks.

There is always arguments which setup is better... there are pros and cons on both setup. Please correct me here... in F1, Ferarri tend to have LWB cars, and Red bull is a SWB car. From their result, there's no absolute winner. Some setup suit some track while some suit others.
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just wondering if i can use 417 parts for my 416?,are they identical when it comes to parts? i find it hard to get parts for my 416..thanks..
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just wondering if i can use 417 parts for my 416?,are they identical when it comes to parts? i find it hard to get parts for my 416..thanks..
try speedtech or tamiya usa
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just wondering if i can use 417 parts for my 416?,are they identical when it comes to parts? i find it hard to get parts for my 416..thanks..
The suspension parts are the same, but the big stuff (bulkheads, chassis, etc) are different. Have you tried:

http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebcategory.asp?id=612
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The suspension parts are the same, but the big stuff (bulkheads, chassis, etc) are different. Have you tried:

http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebcategory.asp?id=612
thanks for the help, i did'nt know speedtechrc before, i only have tried tamiya usa.. one more question, can i upgrade my 416 chassis to 417 with out modification?? thanks.
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thanks for the help, i did'nt know speedtechrc before, i only have tried tamiya usa.. one more question, can i upgrade my 416 chassis to 417 with out modification?? thanks.
no you cant
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try speedtech or tamiya usa
well i start browsing the link to speedtechrc and i was very happy to see all those parts for my 416,..thanks guys...
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Ant C drives a Yokomo ATM... He doesn't want to be known as a Tamiya Fan ATM... :P
Not Correct Clarence, thats Dad's car
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Not Correct Clarence, thats Dad's car
sorry my bad... so care to PM me your setting sheet? heheh
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