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Old 08-13-2012, 08:00 PM   #3721
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Thanks, will try that.

shocks outer at the front arms, middle hole on the rear and on both towers.(found it is best like this when rest of the setups are like I wrote)

Just going through the car, it is in a million pieces atm, nothing too bad found, just worn pins on cvds.

I guess it(or some of the reason) could be the radio also, dont really like the dx3s that much. Trying to get m11x soon. (tried my friends m11 few months ago and got ~.3 sec of my lap times)

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I would go with 0* toe, and shocks on the middle hole. Start there and start playing with tuning. I personally run 1* toe in, 3 from innermost hole on rear 4 outermost hole on front. The rest of my setup is from Marc's carpet setup: (notice, it's carpet)
http://marcrheinard.net/wp-content/u...arc-Carpet.pdf
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:26 AM   #3722
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Hey Guys,

ive buyed my TRF417X for about a month and ive runned it sunday on high grip carpet after a break of 4years!!!

It was quite impressive and super easy to drive...

Ive used the setup down below, but will try some 1mm shims on the Wheelhex and 4mm Ackermann, an maybe some anti-dive in front for more agressive cornering but i find thats Marcs setup ist quite easy and still fast to drive!

And maybe i will try the b-blocks on the rear front suspension for some toe out on the arms!

And some Picture down below!

Greez from Deutschland!
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:52 PM   #3723
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Hy there!

I am stil using the original 417 witj all the upgrades from the X as they are he upper deck, motor mount, shock towers.... but not the lower deck.

So my question is if anybody have done serious comparesation of th lower decks wich ar available,and wich one is he best alroun one?

Greetings Rainer
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Hy there!

I am stil using the original 417 witj all the upgrades from the X as they are he upper deck, motor mount, shock towers.... but not the lower deck.

So my question is if anybody have done serious comparesation of th lower decks wich ar available,and wich one is he best alroun one?

Greetings Rainer
I'd stick with the deck you have, the new one will be out soon enough. If you know anyone with a 417x bottom deck you can borrow then you can use it as a template to dremel the scallops near the inboard toe blocks for more flex.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:57 PM   #3725
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Hey Guys,

ive buyed my TRF417X for about a month and ive runned it sunday on high grip carpet after a break of 4years!!!

It was quite impressive and super easy to drive...

Ive used the setup down below, but will try some 1mm shims on the Wheelhex and 4mm Ackermann, an maybe some anti-dive in front for more agressive cornering but i find thats Marcs setup ist quite easy and still fast to drive!

And maybe i will try the b-blocks on the rear front suspension for some toe out on the arms!

And some Picture down below!

Greez from Deutschland!
I run high traction carpet also with the c/ seperate b setup.

What confuses me is the setup sheet... 2.5* rear toe out??
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:45 AM   #3726
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No it's 2,5 toe in! ;-)

But i'm using the Split Blocks in the rear and you can choose between 1piece and seperated in the setup sheet, so i thougt it was right! ;-)

But no worrys! It's toe in! :-)

I will drive the car today! So i will test the b-blocks in front and some anti dive! :-)
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:33 AM   #3727
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No it's 2,5 toe in! ;-)

But i'm using the Split Blocks in the rear and you can choose between 1piece and seperated in the setup sheet, so i thougt it was right! ;-)

But no worrys! It's toe in! :-)

I will drive the car today! So i will test the b-blocks in front and some anti dive! :-)
That's what I was thinking(it was a typo) many of us use these setup sheets from the pros and follow it 100% I wonder how accurate they truly are...
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:02 AM   #3728
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Hello, was wondering if the Xray (T3) Steering knuckles, the C-hubs would fit on a 417 ?
Same for the HB TCX knuckles and C-hubs ?

Also, what are usefull parts that people use from other chassis to put on the 417 to make it more durable/better performance ?

And finally, a bit like the previous question, but what parts from other chassis CAN be imported on the 417 ? In case of breakage and the shop on track doesnt have spare 417 parts, could I use parts from other cars ? If so, which one please ?

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Old 08-15-2012, 05:17 AM   #3729
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TRF New Upper Deck & Decal
& Tamiya release TRF417 kit again !
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:03 AM   #3730
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Hello, was wondering if the Xray (T3) Steering knuckles, the C-hubs would fit on a 417 ?
Same for the HB TCX knuckles and C-hubs ?

Also, what are usefull parts that people use from other chassis to put on the 417 to make it more durable/better performance ?

And finally, a bit like the previous question, but what parts from other chassis CAN be imported on the 417 ? In case of breakage and the shop on track doesnt have spare 417 parts, could I use parts from other cars ? If so, which one please ?

Thank you.

Xray hubs and knuckles do fit on the 417 if you ream out the Tamiya arms to accept the Xray hinge pins since they are larger (3mm I believe). I run them on mine and have not broken a front end part since. Those are the only non 417 parts on my car, and I'm a pretty good durability tester, lol! Don't know about HB parts.

Second, I've read that guys with the new VBC Wildfire have been using Tamiya suspension blocks. So you might be able to use those, and perhaps other suspension parts too on the 417. To me that car looks a hell of a lot like a mix of a T3 and 417.
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Thanks for the order SilverHKS, it's going out today!
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Thanks for the order SilverHKS, it's going out today!
No prob. You came HIGHLY reccomended.
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.... So... The new car will be the 417XX??....... Just wondering!.....
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.... So... The new car will be the 417XX??....... Just wondering!.....
Probably more like the 417WC or 417WE...
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Someone tried the harder rear differential? Oil 1500 or 2000?

Thanks. Best Regards.
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