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Old 07-29-2012, 03:51 PM   #3616
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Are they just the aeration caps off the 201/502 or is it a new shock cylinder as well? They look different to the 417 shock cylinder, they have a hex shape near the cap like the offroad buggies and not like the onroad shocks
They look like the front cylinders off the buggy, but the bottom cap is the tourer one and I assume the piston is off the tourer shocks too. No idea about the inside, the buggies have no bladders and two orings in the bottom
They look like the cylinder of the buggy, but the fronts on the buggy are longer than a TC cylinder from what i can see, you having both would know better than i would but i think the front buggy cylinder is taller than the TC
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:01 PM   #3617
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Kinga you have answered your question if you are still learning X-ray is the way because will keep you in the track and finish races and have runtime but if you are fighting for the 3 spots on the podium Tamiya will sure make it easier and depends on your class if you heat in modify with Tamiya say goodbye but on stock class it should finish the race and the parts will still run for same races otherwise you need to keep changing parts.

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What to spend less money changing parts? Xray
So am I understanding this correct, you are basically saying that if you run in modified the car is going to break?
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:21 PM   #3618
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So am I understanding this correct, you are basically saying that if you run in modified the car is going to break?
He is saying parts, such as belts, will wear out quicker. Plastics will break easier then xray if you hit something. Tamiya cars can take a hit or two in mod but it will not hold up like xray will. On my tamiya car i ran a hard foam bumper with a wide plastic bottom piece. this helps save many many parts.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:23 PM   #3619
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He is saying parts, such as belts, will wear out quicker. Plastics will break easier then xray if you hit something. Tamiya cars can take a hit or two in mod but it will not hold up like xray will. On my tamiya car i ran a hard foam bumper with a wide plastic bottom piece. this helps save many many parts.
or you can run the non-graphite injected parts from cars like the TA-05. that is the only way i could get a c-hub to last more than one run on my 417x
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or you can run the non-graphite injected parts from cars like the TA-05. that is the only way i could get a c-hub to last more than one run on my 417x
That to. Im glad someone else has figured that out. it seems most people feel the non-graphite stuff is weaker but its actually not, it gives a little instead of snapping instantly in a wreck.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:19 PM   #3621
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Those rubber TA05 parts will also give you reactive caster.
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Those rubber TA05 parts will also give you reactive caster.
Just like 12th scale but they do work way better durability wise then the others.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:35 AM   #3623
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Those rubber TA05 parts will also give you reactive caster.
Yeah.. that is less than optimal but replacing a c-hub (or two) every run sucks. The c-hub has to be the worst part on the 417.
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Stop hitting each other then or don't use the boarding as break
What is different on the 417 C-hub to the one used on the 416??
I am running my 416 for a bit more then 2 year now but only broke a C-hub when i got hit at full lock in a full speed righthander.
I only replace them when they have exessive wear.

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Stop hitting each other then or don't use the boarding as break
What is different on the 417 C-hub to the one used on the 416??
I am running my 416 for a bit more then 2 year now but only broke a C-hub when i got hit at full lock in a full speed righthander.
I only replace them when they have exessive wear.

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The 416WE/X and 417 share the same suspension parts so the C hubs are still the same. The standard 416 also had the same Chubs, knuckles and rear hubs but the suspension arms were different.
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I know that the suspensionparts are the same on the 416 and 417.
I thought that the newer versions of the 417 perhaps had a change and there fore the c-hubs snap faster

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The 416WE/X and 417 share the same suspension parts so the C hubs are still the same. The standard 416 also had the same Chubs, knuckles and rear hubs but the suspension arms were different.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:56 AM   #3627
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the follower of the trf417x will be coming soon?
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:42 PM   #3628
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Generally new cars are released around December time so a while yet
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:50 PM   #3629
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To me, the 417x is probably the biggest improvement of the TRF series. There is probably a 418 coming out soon, but will it be different enough to jump ship? I don't know how much more you can turn already with the current design of chassis.
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Any idea how thick they ended up going to for the chassis and top deck at the worlds? I thought I read that they where contemplating a change to something thicker.
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