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Old 09-08-2010, 01:41 PM   #16
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Just adding the larger CAD pics to this thread....



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Old 09-08-2010, 01:46 PM   #17
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I remember looking at your 416X Experimental chassis. You used the the front bulkhead on the front and rear, as it looks like they will be doing with the 417. My questions is (without having my car in front of me) do the front bulkheads bolt onto the rear with the standard 416 mounting hole positions? Or did you customize that with your chassis?
They mount to the upper deck perfectly and place the diff in the same position as on the 416X. But you need new holes in the lower deck for the bulkheads and also suspension blocks as they will otherwise hit the bulkheads.

On the 417 all these parts appear to be new though.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:33 PM   #18
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It's interesting that Tamiya is making the motor mount beefier while other maunfacturers are making their smaller, even to the extreme like the CEFX Evo(Yikes!). I like Tamiya's approach better cause there's less worry about tweaking the motormount in a bad crash.
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It's interesting that Tamiya is making the motor mount beefier while other maunfacturers are making their smaller, even to the extreme like the CEFX Evo(Yikes!). I like Tamiya's approach better cause there's less worry about tweaking the motormount in a bad crash.
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It's interesting that Tamiya is making the motor mount beefier while other maunfacturers are making their smaller, even to the extreme like the CEFX Evo(Yikes!). I like Tamiya's approach better cause there's less worry about tweaking the motormount in a bad crash.
Um, the CEFX Evo motor mount, although small, is made of steel, not aluminum. It would probably bend or break the motor screws or the screws holding it to the chassis before anything else.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:56 PM   #21
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I know it's steel. I was only using the CEFX Evo mount as an example of how small the mounts were getting. Actually, I would be more worried about the motor case/ends getting tweaked in the event of a bad crash.
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It would probably break the motor screws or the screws holding it to the chassis before anything else.
Imagine what that would do to the electronics when the motor smacks into them.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:34 PM   #23
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man jus when i pick up a 416x and lipo chassis this comes out... oh well guess i'll have to wait till DEC for this
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More on the 417 @ http://kentech.blogs.se/ and http://www.tamiya.com/trf/

Some interesting info on the ideas behind the changes from the 416 to the 417.





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Glad that I didn't pick up the lipo chassis..... gonna have this one thou!
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Looks like a narrow ta05ms. The bulkheads are the same. Obviously the motor is even more central to the chassis, but it seems to also be placed more forward on the chassis than the 416x like the ta05ms.
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Hop new ball diff can be use with 416we or 416x
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Glad that I didn't pick up the lipo chassis..... gonna have this one thou!
Yes me to.Lucky i didnt buy the new lipo chassis im Interested on the new balldiff!!
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I just picked up a lipo chassis Monday
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Are you guys really that surprised? Tamiya comes out with a new car every year, same as Xray.

Looks very promising. I like many of the changes and of course all of the top touring cars will likely have lipo chassis' after this year. After running my 416WE without the steering brace that connects to the top deck for the first time this week, I can see why they are ditching it all together. Really made the front end come alive.
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