R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-01-2011, 06:52 PM   #721
Tech Elite
 
RCFREAK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: MEMBER OF THE "MWC" Mimi Wong Clan
Posts: 2,402
Trader Rating: 17 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hanulec View Post
Update from the Halloween Classic ..

Larry Fairtrace TQ and Wins 13.5 boosted 1/12

Mike Hanulec sets the fastest "real" lap in 1/12 stock Amain (before blowing out of 3rd pace in attempt to catch back up to the leaders)

First time 1/12 races do well with the Rebel 12 - Arvin Nano in the B-main and Mike Larcher in the stock C-main

Well, the Halloween Classics is over again. I was able to experience 12th for the first time in 10 years of racing. I was a sent a rebel to run for the race, received it the Thursday before leaving that Friday evening. I ran the car for opening Sat. practice and it was definately a different driving from sedan... Big learning curve! Made slight changes to suit my driving and after the first qualifier i found myself better than average against a heavy field of veteran 12th drivers. Second qualifier was another form of shakedown driving. Thanks to Ron and Hanulec on the driving tips. I was swapping leads with another veteran 12th racer, finishing just second to him. 3rd qualifier, IT WAS ON! again finishing well, and found the hotlap for 12th was only 2/10th faster than mine. As for the 4th qualifier, once again, i manage to get used to the driving, i added more steering with camber, raced against the clock. This time, me an another racer was looking into making the bottom of the A-Main!!! WOW!! Until another racer was racing with me on the track rather than the clock, tapped the side of my car, and felt tweaked after that...it may have been due to the worn rear tires too.. not sure.

As for the Rebel it is one heck of a car to drive! Larry's setup makes this car a winning car, or at least gets you very close!!

Gotta Thank Ron "Goat" Goetter for letting me use his car for this race!
Larry for all the Team help and support....AWESOME!
Mike Hanulec also for the much needed help.
Jerry Perez you know whats up!
Larcher... for charging the reciever pack..hehehe

EJ AND OD! Thanks for a great car!!
__________________
Arv.
RC AMERICA// EA MOTORSPORTS// KO PROPO// ORCA
RCFREAK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2011, 08:07 PM   #722
Tech Elite
 
L.Fairtrace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Beyond the Wall
Posts: 3,746
Trader Rating: 23 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to L.Fairtrace
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCFREAK View Post
Well, the Halloween Classics is over again. I was able to experience 12th for the first time in 10 years of racing. I was a sent a rebel to run for the race, received it the Thursday before leaving that Friday evening. I ran the car for opening Sat. practice and it was definately a different driving from sedan... Big learning curve! Made slight changes to suit my driving and after the first qualifier i found myself better than average against a heavy field of veteran 12th drivers. Second qualifier was another form of shakedown driving. Thanks to Ron and Hanulec on the driving tips. I was swapping leads with another veteran 12th racer, finishing just second to him. 3rd qualifier, IT WAS ON! again finishing well, and found the hotlap for 12th was only 2/10th faster than mine. As for the 4th qualifier, once again, i manage to get used to the driving, i added more steering with camber, raced against the clock. This time, me an another racer was looking into making the bottom of the A-Main!!! WOW!! Until another racer was racing with me on the track rather than the clock, tapped the side of my car, and felt tweaked after that...it may have been due to the worn rear tires too.. not sure.

As for the Rebel it is one heck of a car to drive! Larry's setup makes this car a winning car, or at least gets you very close!!

Gotta Thank Ron "Goat" Goetter for letting me use his car for this race!
Larry for all the Team help and support....AWESOME!
Mike Hanulec also for the much needed help.
Jerry Perez you know whats up!
Larcher... for charging the reciever pack..hehehe

EJ AND OD! Thanks for a great car!!
Good work Arv I think we may have found a tiny little 12th scale racer this weekend.



Here is a pic of my car for those asking.
Attached Thumbnails
T.O.P Racing's Rebel 1/12th scale-rebel-hc-2011-resized.jpg  
__________________
T.O.P Racing - Awesomatix USA - EaMotorsports - BSR Racing Tires - Orca - TQ Wire - Solaris Racing Tires - Side Piece Racing

Horsham RC. Where champions practice Failing. I'm your everything.....
L.Fairtrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2011, 09:16 PM   #723
Tech Champion
 
skypilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,492
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by odpurple View Post
Sorry we're such a big secret We will have the website updated soon and even have the webstore operational again. No eta though

We have Rebel 10 kits and parts in stock.

There's also a Rebel 10 thread: T.O.P. Racing Rebel 10 World GT

topracingusa@yahoo.com
650-583-8898
oops, change of plans, wgt is dying locally, and as much as i wanted to run it at TZGP doesn't make sense to buy a car for one race, sooooo, think i will go with a sedan instead, call you tomorrow.
__________________
#49, #25a, #91, #7, #12 the ones to watch.... UPDATE. #12 is your new AMA GNC #1

A Northwest Team of Positive actions
skypilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2011, 12:12 AM   #724
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 423
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default Parts

Where can I find a parts list online for the rebel? I tried the google search and came up with nothing. Topusa does not have the manual online either.

Thanks 1airborne
__________________
serpent cobra 811TE, Cobra 811T,Serpent S411TE,rebel12 pan car, VPfuel, Buku clutches, Novi motors
1airborne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2011, 07:48 AM   #725
Tech Champion
 
MikeXray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 5,747
Trader Rating: 72 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCFREAK View Post
Well, the Halloween Classics is over again. I was able to experience 12th for the first time in 10 years of racing. I was a sent a rebel to run for the race, received it the Thursday before leaving that Friday evening. I ran the car for opening Sat. practice and it was definately a different driving from sedan... Big learning curve! Made slight changes to suit my driving and after the first qualifier i found myself better than average against a heavy field of veteran 12th drivers. Second qualifier was another form of shakedown driving. Thanks to Ron and Hanulec on the driving tips. I was swapping leads with another veteran 12th racer, finishing just second to him. 3rd qualifier, IT WAS ON! again finishing well, and found the hotlap for 12th was only 2/10th faster than mine. As for the 4th qualifier, once again, i manage to get used to the driving, i added more steering with camber, raced against the clock. This time, me an another racer was looking into making the bottom of the A-Main!!! WOW!! Until another racer was racing with me on the track rather than the clock, tapped the side of my car, and felt tweaked after that...it may have been due to the worn rear tires too.. not sure.

As for the Rebel it is one heck of a car to drive! Larry's setup makes this car a winning car, or at least gets you very close!!

Gotta Thank Ron "Goat" Goetter for letting me use his car for this race!
Larry for all the Team help and support....AWESOME!
Mike Hanulec also for the much needed help.
Jerry Perez you know whats up!
Larcher... for charging the reciever pack..hehehe

EJ AND OD! Thanks for a great car!!
No prob Arv, good running out there. This was only the 2nd race I had with the car and was working out the kinks, my car is good up front but falls off after 15 laps or so, so I couldn't get that 47 lapper in. I find the car very easy to drive, it probably needs more steering, but after driving a rubber TC it feels like it has a ton, but it realistically can probably use more and less dual rate
__________________
Mike L. Awesomatixusa.com | TQWire.com | Islandraceway.com |JacksonRCracing.com | Horsham RC | Sweepracingusa.com
MikeXray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2011, 07:55 PM   #726
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,015
Trader Rating: 23 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1airborne View Post
Where can I find a parts list online for the rebel? I tried the google search and came up with nothing. Topusa does not have the manual online either.

Thanks 1airborne
Timezone has parts:
http://www.timezonehobbies.com/store...&cPath=2_26_58

Stormer will soon have parts.

Your local hobby store can always reach out to the local TOP dealer. And if they won't, you can always call them yourself. The team at TOP USA is very responsive.
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / Shop@ Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2011, 10:00 PM   #727
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 423
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hanulec View Post
Timezone has parts:
http://www.timezonehobbies.com/store...&cPath=2_26_58

Stormer will soon have parts.

Your local hobby store can always reach out to the local TOP dealer. And if they won't, you can always call them yourself. The team at TOP USA is very responsive.
Thank you

1airborne
__________________
serpent cobra 811TE, Cobra 811T,Serpent S411TE,rebel12 pan car, VPfuel, Buku clutches, Novi motors
1airborne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 08:23 AM   #728
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 222
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Couple of quick questions regarding the build process of the Rebel 12.

First, is there a difference between Version 1 and 2 front arms? I saw the pack of the Version 2 arms and at first I thought they were just spares but after reading the info on racerlog.com that does not seem to be the case.

Second, on racerlog it says to shim the shock piston. What does that do? Does shimming the piston mean putting a shim inside the shock body?

Lastly, the guy at the hobby shop said that since I'll be running a Tekin RS on a 1s lipo I'll need an additional receiver pack which I got. I'm sure this is a noob question but how do I install it? And do I need to use the capacitor that came with the ESC?

Thanks for your help.
Delawareguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 08:26 AM   #729
Tech Initiate
 
jmellipse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 43
Default

Version 2 arm is lower, make it possible to run smaller diameter tires.
Shimming the piston takes out the play the piston has between the 2 e-clips.
Use that cap. Not sure about the receiverpack, I run a booster and prefer it because of it's simplicity in use.
jmellipse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 08:34 AM   #730
Tech Fanatic
 
ralph m's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 900
Trader Rating: 31 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delawareguy View Post
since I'll be running a Tekin RS on a 1s lipo I'll need an additional receiver pack which I got. I'm sure this is a noob question but how do I install it? And do I need to use the capacitor that came with the ESC?
Yes on the cap. The battery plugs into the battery (or aux) slot on the receiver. The switch on the ESC should be in the off position - some cut the switch off (cover the ends of the wires if you do this so they don't short). You use the switch on the battery pack to turn the car on/off.

I tried several packs (lipo/life) and think a booster is the way to go. TC Cells or OHP makes good ones, with switches.
__________________
tqwire.com
ralph m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 08:36 AM   #731
Tech Elite
 
artwork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Thornton, CO
Posts: 3,029
Trader Rating: 53 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delawareguy View Post
Couple of quick questions regarding the build process of the Rebel 12.

First, is there a difference between Version 1 and 2 front arms? I saw the pack of the Version 2 arms and at first I thought they were just spares but after reading the info on racerlog.com that does not seem to be the case.

Second, on racerlog it says to shim the shock piston. What does that do? Does shimming the piston mean putting a shim inside the shock body?

Lastly, the guy at the hobby shop said that since I'll be running a Tekin RS on a 1s lipo I'll need an additional receiver pack which I got. I'm sure this is a noob question but how do I install it? And do I need to use the capacitor that came with the ESC?

Thanks for your help.
Shimming the piston is one option, but I found that CA'ing the piston to the shaft is the best way to remove the play between the e-clips and the piston.

the receiver pack should plug into the radio receiver in the car and provides the much needed voltage required for the electronics to run properly. The Speed control Cap must also be installed as well.
__________________
Xray | Hudy | Sanwa | R1 Wurks | Avid | Protoform | Proline | 2mm Designs
artwork is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 08:45 AM   #732
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 222
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

So the receiver pack plugs into the receiver only? I assumed that because there are two leads coming off of it that the other one had to go somewhere. What is point of the receiver pack? How come the lipo isn't enough? What does the cap do?

Also, why do some people mount the servo is a flat positon instead of using the servo mounts?

Electric cars are confusing.
Delawareguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 09:00 AM   #733
Tech Fanatic
 
Infinite 12th's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: California
Posts: 877
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delawareguy View Post
So the receiver pack plugs into the receiver only? I assumed that because there are two leads coming off of it that the other one had to go somewhere. What is point of the receiver pack? How come the lipo isn't enough? What does the cap do?

Also, why do some people mount the servo is a flat positon instead of using the servo mounts?

Electric cars are confusing.
Yes it's switch takes over using the regular switch

The point of RP is to keep the voltage high for servo and to lesson use of battery to power servo for longer run times

Lipo/Life packs work fine or use booster

LRP speedo's don't need RP or booster but people are all fanatical about Tekin for stock racing and with Tekin you need RP or booster ...lol

Cap's use to increase punch or keep voltage regular. Maybe they even keep any excess energy regulated or help with voltage spikes I dunno

People use the servo either way. If you watch the wheels with servo flat the inside turns earlier than outside. With angled servo the outside turns more at end of servo throw

I am using the angled cause the wheels turn more evenly together and that gives a car that is more even or balanced effect in turn for me

@Anyone

Does anyone remember any speedos that actually use to act as a recharging mechanism to the battery using the motor as generator. What happened to those
__________________
12th scale - The Jedi class...
Infinite 12th is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 12:10 PM   #734
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 222
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

A couple more noob questions. First, how do you guys run your sensor wire? It looks like it has to go through a hole in the mount plate before it can connect to the motor. What's the best way to run it without interfering with the rear suspension or anything else? Second, is there an upgraded screw kit for these cars? Something that has harder screws? It seems very easy to strip the screw heads.

Thanks for your help.
Delawareguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2011, 12:30 PM   #735
Tech Fanatic
 
ralph m's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 900
Trader Rating: 31 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delawareguy View Post
A couple more noob questions. First, how do you guys run your sensor wire?
Some guys go "over the top", others thread it under the top plate. If it's flexible enough it won't matter - just make sure it doesn't get caught up in the side springs or between the body and chassis.

I remove most of the silicone tube, leaving only a small piece that gets taped to the batt under the shock, passing below the top plate & along the motor to the plug. Larry Fairtrace routes the cable around the outside of the battery (see pic in post #722) leaving only a small section of the tube so it doesn't tangle up in the side links.
__________________
tqwire.com
ralph m is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
T.O.P. Racing "Photon" 1/10 EP Touring Car keithander Electric On-Road 9053 02-24-2016 07:51 PM
Trains and Lanes Onroad Racing Summer 08 edition t_laible Racing Forum 2280 06-09-2010 02:41 PM
FS: 1/12 Scale, GTB, 9650 Servo, receivers, Setup Station, DPD, Lathe, +more revolution31 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 27 12-18-2009 12:09 PM
3-10-2007 Trenton Carpet Racing ShaunMac Georgia Racing 10 03-09-2007 02:49 PM
Hampton MN Rc Racing Mark O'Brien Minnesota and North/South Dakota Racing 411 01-05-2007 12:47 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 07:49 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.0