Drifters..... i need your help!
10-02-2010, 05:08 PM
#1
Drifters..... i need your help!
hey guys,
just a small question to anyone with electric drifting experience. our 1/10 touring season has ended and my Xray T2 is a shelf queen now, few days ago, i went to a local drift track and it looks like a nice thing to try.
now, my question: can i turn my super dialed tourer into a drift car?? it had tons of traction on carpet, how can i make it drift?? the surface is kind of epoxy/asphalt thing, very slipery and i see cars slide all over the place.
what shall/ can i do to turn it into a drift car?? setting wise
what gear ratio to run??
i dont want to buy new electronics, i run speed passion GTpro and 4.5T motor, is the combo good for drifiting??
well, i need help
cheers
Ali
just a small question to anyone with electric drifting experience. our 1/10 touring season has ended and my Xray T2 is a shelf queen now, few days ago, i went to a local drift track and it looks like a nice thing to try.
now, my question: can i turn my super dialed tourer into a drift car?? it had tons of traction on carpet, how can i make it drift?? the surface is kind of epoxy/asphalt thing, very slipery and i see cars slide all over the place.
what shall/ can i do to turn it into a drift car?? setting wise
what gear ratio to run??
i dont want to buy new electronics, i run speed passion GTpro and 4.5T motor, is the combo good for drifiting??
well, i need help
cheers
Ali
10-02-2010, 05:12 PM
#2
Get some drift tires. Abs work well, a rear spool helps, and start practicing
10-02-2010, 05:36 PM
#3
Years ago before they had "drift" tires, we just wrapped regular rubber tires with tape to make them slippery. Electrical and masking tape worked well. Won't last as long as a set of drift tires, but you can do it quickly and try out drifting on the cheap.
We just did it for fun and never really changed the setup of the car.
We just did it for fun and never really changed the setup of the car.
10-02-2010, 05:59 PM
#5
It'll work, but gear it lower than you would when racing touring.
10-02-2010, 06:00 PM
#6
Not really sure what the ideal motor is for drifting, but you don't need much. I used the original Novak 5800 (8.5) back in the day and it was plenty. I'm not sure if there is a downside to running your faster 4.5.
10-02-2010, 06:48 PM
#7
To drift, all you need are tires. ABS/PVC pipe are good budget tires or you can get some purpose made drift tires like HPI T Drifts, Tamiya Super Drift Techs, Yokomo single rings, etc.
For the motor, anything below a 6.5 is overkill for drifting. Not that it won't work it's just you don't need that much power to drift. Anything from a 8.5 to 13.5 will work just fine.
If you haven't already, put a spool in the rear and a ball diff up front and start practicing. Setting up a drift car is very different from grip racing. There is a nice guide here on some set up tips and a detailed, but lengthy read here that is also useful.
For the motor, anything below a 6.5 is overkill for drifting. Not that it won't work it's just you don't need that much power to drift. Anything from a 8.5 to 13.5 will work just fine.
If you haven't already, put a spool in the rear and a ball diff up front and start practicing. Setting up a drift car is very different from grip racing. There is a nice guide here on some set up tips and a detailed, but lengthy read here that is also useful.
10-02-2010, 06:53 PM
#8
tamiya makes some nice pre-mounted drift tires, available in 6 spoke or mesh, both are chrome plated and you can pick 26mm or 24mm for width. street price is $13 - $15 for one pair.
10-02-2010, 07:15 PM
#9
Drifting around the parking lot is easy.
But drifting on the track is a totally different animal.
Also Making it look good is even harder.
1. No Just Slapping drift tires on ur car will not make a drift car.
-Reason it will handle like *Bleep*
-You weight transfer is wrong from a race setup
-You want a controlled slide not bunch of donuts
2. PVC = SLOOOOOW Drift, Type T HPI Drifts = Slow, Type A HPI = More realistic drifts, Type D = Speed Drifts
-Different Tires are used on different Surfaces.
-Depending on what the rest of the people run, u wanna match them so u can have some dual drifts going on (Easier said than done)
3. Instead wanting to have ur rear dig in, u want the front to dig in.
-No you dont want Stiff springs all around
-Try Soft front and, Medium Rear
4. 2 types of drifts
-Weight shift Smooth throttle (More elegant)
-Power to the tires to break them loose (Very agressive looking)
5. Dont do the nitro jank trigger drift.
-Smooth trigger pull right at the edge of more power and use ur weight to break it loose.
-once loose Maintain the throttle right at the edge, if you about to get traction feed it lil more throttle.
-If using ur weight its alot easier to chain ur drifts
6. Not all cars need Locked rear diff.
-Using a Team Magic E4FS/RS u can get away with tight rear diff.
-Some cars need a locked diff like TC4 or TC3.
-Depending on ur car and setup if locked diff is needed.
7. Motor wise 4.5t is over kill for this application.
-You kind of want to have ur whole throttle play.
-Unless you able to gear that motor way down.
-Drifters normally stay in the 5000kv ish range.
-You want ur torque to be on ur midband and top end.
-Personally using a 8.5 or 10.5
-Reason for slower motors is you loose ur throttle controll at midrange rpm,
its harder to get ur right RPM with a hotter motor, its like trying to stop a Formula 1 car from shifting when you reving.
8. Eletronics your ESC should be just fine, i used to use that one.
-Though keep an eye out on over heating.
-Since you free spinning alot keep an eye out on ur temps.
Go out there with an open mind, dont even think its easy. Alot of decent racers thought that it was easy, some just gave up some endured the learning curve and now relax drifting with us. You will see if you drift around a track. Its not about speed its really about grace and elegance. Have fun PM if you have problems...
But drifting on the track is a totally different animal.
Also Making it look good is even harder.
1. No Just Slapping drift tires on ur car will not make a drift car.
-Reason it will handle like *Bleep*
-You weight transfer is wrong from a race setup
-You want a controlled slide not bunch of donuts
2. PVC = SLOOOOOW Drift, Type T HPI Drifts = Slow, Type A HPI = More realistic drifts, Type D = Speed Drifts
-Different Tires are used on different Surfaces.
-Depending on what the rest of the people run, u wanna match them so u can have some dual drifts going on (Easier said than done)
3. Instead wanting to have ur rear dig in, u want the front to dig in.
-No you dont want Stiff springs all around
-Try Soft front and, Medium Rear
4. 2 types of drifts
-Weight shift Smooth throttle (More elegant)
-Power to the tires to break them loose (Very agressive looking)
5. Dont do the nitro jank trigger drift.
-Smooth trigger pull right at the edge of more power and use ur weight to break it loose.
-once loose Maintain the throttle right at the edge, if you about to get traction feed it lil more throttle.
-If using ur weight its alot easier to chain ur drifts
6. Not all cars need Locked rear diff.
-Using a Team Magic E4FS/RS u can get away with tight rear diff.
-Some cars need a locked diff like TC4 or TC3.
-Depending on ur car and setup if locked diff is needed.
7. Motor wise 4.5t is over kill for this application.
-You kind of want to have ur whole throttle play.
-Unless you able to gear that motor way down.
-Drifters normally stay in the 5000kv ish range.
-You want ur torque to be on ur midband and top end.
-Personally using a 8.5 or 10.5
-Reason for slower motors is you loose ur throttle controll at midrange rpm,
its harder to get ur right RPM with a hotter motor, its like trying to stop a Formula 1 car from shifting when you reving.
8. Eletronics your ESC should be just fine, i used to use that one.
-Though keep an eye out on over heating.
-Since you free spinning alot keep an eye out on ur temps.
Go out there with an open mind, dont even think its easy. Alot of decent racers thought that it was easy, some just gave up some endured the learning curve and now relax drifting with us. You will see if you drift around a track. Its not about speed its really about grace and elegance. Have fun PM if you have problems...
Last edited by iPearl; 10-02-2010 at 07:28 PM.
10-02-2010, 07:21 PM
#10
ive been rc drfting for about 6 years now...
best tires are hpi t drifts. you want a front ball diff, and a rear spool. you want a 8.5 brushless and an FDR around 7 or so. the standard servo from futaba is best. anything faster causes loss of control. you also want medium springs, around tamiya yellows and 30 wt shock oil.
0 camber rear, 3* toe
1.5-2 * camber front, no toe.
best tires are hpi t drifts. you want a front ball diff, and a rear spool. you want a 8.5 brushless and an FDR around 7 or so. the standard servo from futaba is best. anything faster causes loss of control. you also want medium springs, around tamiya yellows and 30 wt shock oil.
0 camber rear, 3* toe
1.5-2 * camber front, no toe.
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