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Old 03-25-2012, 12:47 AM   #6331
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sorry for i know it's not suit for the thread, but i really can not found where to ask.

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I'm running on a lrp 4.5T x12 octa wind motor on my TC6, with 87 spur, 19 pinion, after few round (not complete 5 minutes) the motor heat to around 8x-9x degree, but even if i make it finish 5 minutes race with around 16-17 round, the heat still maintaince at 8x-9x degree, is there any problem with the heat on this figure? how to drop down the degree or what temperature should i maintaince for motor good health? Thanks for the help.
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Your probably too hot (over geared) Drop to a smaller pinion.
Check your motor manual....most brushless motors, temp should be 160~175 F maximum. (my motors, after 5 minutes, 125*F
85*C, = 185*F.....that is above the maximum temp for most motors.
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Your probably too hot (over geared) Drop to a smaller pinion.
Check your motor manual....most brushless motors, temp should be 160~175 F maximum. (my motors, after 5 minutes, 125*F
85*C, = 185*F.....that is above the maximum temp for most motors.
what pinion should i gear then? 18?

seen my gear ratio at the moment is 9.16 with 87 spur and 19 pinion, if gear smaller pinion again, i will move up to 9.6 gear ration, i will lost my top speed then...even with 9.16 my top speed already very bad.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:01 AM   #6334
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what pinion should i gear then? 18?

seen my gear ratio at the moment is 9.16 with 87 spur and 19 pinion, if gear smaller pinion again, i will move up to 9.6 gear ration, i will lost my top speed then...even with 9.16 my top speed already very bad.
What speedo?

Maybe too much timing?

4.5T are hot engines ;-)

My gear ratio is in range 87 / (21-23) at 48p for 4.5, 5.5T, 8Tdelta or 9Tdelta. Just correcting boost

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Old 03-25-2012, 04:54 AM   #6335
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What speedo?

Maybe too much timing?

4.5T are hot engines ;-)

My gear ratio is in range 87 / (21-23) at 48p for 4.5, 5.5T, 8Tdelta or 9Tdelta. Just correcting boost

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Dont know if the mod motors are like the stock.ones but ntthe LRP x12's can run fast and reliable into the 200F range...

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sorry for i know it's not suit for the thread, but i really can not found where to ask.

my question,

I'm running on a lrp 4.5T x12 octa wind motor on my TC6, with 87 spur, 19 pinion, after few round (not complete 5 minutes) the motor heat to around 8x-9x degree, but even if i make it finish 5 minutes race with around 16-17 round, the heat still maintaince at 8x-9x degree, is there any problem with the heat on this figure? how to drop down the degree or what temperature should i maintaince for motor good health? Thanks for the help.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:19 AM   #6337
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Speedo is lrp sxx TC spec v1, timing set at default #4(#4-#6 is for touring show in manual)
set boost feel to 1, all "timing" optioons to LOW walue

I'm happy that I do not drive lrp

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Speedo is lrp sxx TC spec v1, timing set at default #4(#4-#6 is for touring show in manual)
What timing insert are you using? You may need less timing and more gear.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:56 AM   #6339
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Hey guys need to grab some extra parts (castor, c hubs....) want to order online my local is very limited on parts.....

Best price and shipping?


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Hey guys need to grab some extra parts (castor, c hubs....) want to order online my local is very limited on parts.....

Best price and shipping?


Thanks guys!
You try this place, http://www.hobbysuperstore.com/browse.cfm/2,6.html, I've been there and it seems to have a decent selection...not sure on tc6/6.1 stuff. Its probably 30 mins or less from Miramar if you take 95 to 595...

This place, http://www.superiorhobbies.com/ has alot of tc6 stuff, its in Orlando if your looking to get something shipped locally.

Otherwise I just go with amain .... http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...ds=tc6&x=7&y=4.
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You try this place, http://www.hobbysuperstore.com/browse.cfm/2,6.html, I've been there and it seems to have a decent selection...not sure on tc6/6.1 stuff. Its probably 30 mins or less from Miramar if you take 95 to 595...

This place, http://www.superiorhobbies.com/ has alot of tc6 stuff, its in Orlando if your looking to get something shipped locally.

Otherwise I just go with amain .... http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...ds=tc6&x=7&y=4
Yeah i know of Warricks, but they some times lack the selection and with gas the way it is its like cheaper to ship and buy bulk! lol

I am a true amain fan.....has any one tried associated warehouse?
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Hey guys need to grab some extra parts (castor, c hubs....) want to order online my local is very limited on parts.....

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Ask your local hobby shop to order them for you. Won't have yo pay shipping and support them.
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What timing insert are you using? You may need less timing and more gear.
do you mean motor timing? i don play with that at all, it's all default from lrp. By the way, after i try to adjust a bit from my gearing, the temp has been drop to around 7x-8x degree at the moment, may be i will try to adjust 1 or 2 more teeth on next time after i try for few days.

my gear ratio was 9.16 (87spur, 19pinion), now i add 1 teeth for pinion from 19 to 20, and gear ratio at the moment is 8.7, it's getting good on the temperature, i will monitor it and try to add 1 more teeth and see how it's go.
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sorry for i know it's not suit for the thread, but i really can not found where to ask.

my question,

I'm running on a lrp 4.5T x12 octa wind motor on my TC6, with 87 spur, 19 pinion, after few round (not complete 5 minutes) the motor heat to around 8x-9x degree, but even if i make it finish 5 minutes race with around 16-17 round, the heat still maintaince at 8x-9x degree, is there any problem with the heat on this figure? how to drop down the degree or what temperature should i maintaince for motor good health? Thanks for the help.
LRP X12 is okay upto an external temperature of 100degC. So if you're in the 80s or 90s I wouldn't worry about it.
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I currently race with a TC6 in VTA and was wondering do I have to convert it to a TC6.1 before I can use DCJ'S? Im thinking about using the hotbodies or soon to be released Reflex racing ones.
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