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Old 02-14-2012, 07:00 PM   #5776
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I would go to 1 and 1 for your camber link positions. Going 7 to 1 on the front should help with the buildup. I also like 1 instead of 3 in the rear, it feels more stable to me.
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I would go to 1 and 1 for your camber link positions. Going 7 to 1 on the front should help with the buildup. I also like 1 instead of 3 in the rear, it feels more stable to me.
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The guy who's setup I copied runs modified and does very well

The only difference between our cars is he use 1B roll centers in the rear of both front and back end

So basically (Ft 0B, 1B),(Rr 0B, 1B) so I guess that creates anti-dive?

His car looks in comparison to mine that it drives straighter when on power

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Old 02-14-2012, 07:32 PM   #5778
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The guy who's setup I copied runs modified and does very well

The only difference between our cars is he use 1B roll centers in the rear of both front and back end

So basically (Ft 0B, 1B),(Rr 0B, 1B) so I guess that creates anti-dive?

His car looks in comparison to mine that it drives straighter when on power
Are you also running modified?
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Are you also running modified?
Not yet although I usually run 12th modified

I want to get used to working with sedan a little as my TC experience is not as much as 12th

Are there better setups for stock?

An better approach for 17.5?

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Not yet although I usually run 12th modified

I want to get used to working with sedan a little as my TC experience is not as much as 12th

Are there better setups for stock?

An better approach for 17.5?

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I use Keven Hebert's 17.5 Super Stock set up from the 2011 IIC on Jason's TC6.
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...iicss_2011.pdf
17.5 Blinky class. Large medium bite carpet track for club racing using Sweep Kitty Rug tires. Just tweek your front and rear camber settings to get it to handle to your liking. On high bite carpet tracks we will run a Jaco blue or Sweep 32. Car is fast and solid.

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Anyone have any experience with the difference between hub toe in and pin angle toe in?
Is there any?

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I use Keven Hebert's 17.5 Super Stock set up from the 2011 IIC on Jason's TC6.
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...iicss_2011.pdf
17.5 Blinky class. Large medium bite carpet track for club racing using Sweep Kitty Rug tires. Just tweek your front and rear camber settings to get it to handle to your liking. On high bite carpet tracks we will run a Jaco blue or Sweep 32. Car is fast and solid.

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Thanks I'll check that out
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:07 AM   #5783
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Not yet although I usually run 12th modified

I want to get used to working with sedan a little as my TC experience is not as much as 12th

Are there better setups for stock?

An better approach for 17.5?

Thanks
Yeah generally you would run a different setup for stock vs mod.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:18 AM   #5784
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That is going to push the motor, which is one of the heaviest items on the car aside from the batteries, outward away from the chassis centerline.

Companies like AE have done tons of R&D and design/engineering work to get the motor where it is.... I would be very carefuly making a change like that. It is going to change the balance and weight distribution of the car.
Hmm could explain some straight line issues I'm having under full power; car veers left (motor side).

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I had the same problem with a RevTech motor. You can use a Dremel to extend the flat on the shaft. Try not to get filings in the bearings.
Ah good to see Im not the only one that had this problem...Im a noob with dremel tools etc, what bit did you use?

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Th gold Trinity pinions seem to fit with no issues, as in no Dremeling required. Every other brand needs the flat spot extended on the rotor.
This is what I figured, my hobby shop didnt seem to have any pinions with a shorter shaft than the one I was using...

Anyone one know of any other short shaft pinions they have tried that give significant distance from the belt?
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I had the same issue...... When i switched to a D3.... Just took a plastic bag and poked the motor shaft through. Keeps the metal shavings out of motor and bearing. Made the flat long enough that any pinion fits now.

BTW....... I just figured out why newer setups don't work. The 6.1 setups make my TC6 pushy. Just went back to the KHebert setup above and WOW! Car drives MUCH BETTER.
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I had the same issue...... When i switched to a D3.... Just took a plastic bag and poked the motor shaft through. Keeps the metal shavings out of motor and bearing. Made the flat long enough that any pinion fits now.

BTW....... I just figured out why newer setups don't work. The 6.1 setups make my TC6 pushy. Just went back to the KHebert setup above and WOW! Car drives MUCH BETTER.
Which dremel bit did you use to grind the shaft?
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Just a cut off disc...... Fiber disc..... Held at a low angle
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:40 AM   #5788
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Any suggestions for where I should start gearing wise for a medium sized track? I haven't had a chance to run it since i'm waiting on a couple of parts but I will be using a 10.5t motor. Currently I have the stock spur coupled with a 20 tooth pinion. Does this sound like a decent starting point?
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I had the same issue...... When i switched to a D3.... Just took a plastic bag and poked the motor shaft through. Keeps the metal shavings out of motor and bearing. Made the flat long enough that any pinion fits now.

BTW....... I just figured out why newer setups don't work. The 6.1 setups make my TC6 pushy. Just went back to the KHebert setup above and WOW! Car drives MUCH BETTER.
the new set ups wont work unless you are using the new arms. the new arms provide alot more mechanical grip then the old arms do.

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Anyone have any experience with the difference between hub toe in and pin angle toe in?
Is there any?

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main thing that i find between pin toe and and hub toe is it changes the angle of shock as you shim the pin out to get your toe it moves the shock bottom out making the shock have more lean causing more side bite where the hub toe will increase forward bite and have alot less of a effect on the side bite of the car.

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