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Old 11-24-2011, 02:26 PM   #4786
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I have too much rear grip, especially off power. I've put on a harder rear roll bar, 14.5 rear spring, less front droop, more rear droop, moved rear shock out 1 hole, slightly stiffer rear shock oil, forward 1 hole ackermann. Goop the whole front tyre. Funny enough none of the changes made much difference, if any.

I do have 6 degree caster block on, only cos they were the only ones I have as spares at the time. Should I go back to 4's?

What would be my next step, regarding roll center changes or any other changes? I don't have the correct length turnbuckles for front link changes though....

lengthen rear camber link?

I'm bit dumb with car setup
Have you tried changing your wheelbase?
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:45 PM   #4787
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I think it would be better to just reduce the caster on the rear axle. Maybe a total of .5 - 1.0 mm less shims under the rear armmounts would make your car turn better.
oh yes sorry, forgot to mention I have reduced rear toe from the standard 4 degree arm mount shims to 3.5. Might need to reduce this even more.
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Old 11-24-2011, 02:49 PM   #4788
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Have you tried changing your wheelbase?
no not yet, it's one of my next things to do also. Just need some track time

however there seems to be some conflicting opinions regarding rear wheelbase. According the tc6 manual, lengthening the rear wheelbase will decrease traction, which is what I want. However other car setups say lengthening the rear wheelbase will make the car more stable and promote rear grip.

But I will give it a go too. Thanks
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Old 11-24-2011, 03:02 PM   #4789
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Try 2mm rear and 1mm front wheelbase and make sure you have 2.5 rear toe. Or perhaps you want to give it a try: http://www.info-rc.net/wp-content/up...iorca_2011.pdf
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Old 11-24-2011, 03:24 PM   #4790
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I think you will find when you reduce rear toe it will free up the rear end. Then you will need to find the balance you like for on power. I fall back to Hebert's latest super stock high grip carpet setup for a baseline. Alot depends on how much grip in the track of course.

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I have too much rear grip, especially off power. I've put on a harder rear roll bar, 14.5 rear spring, less front droop, more rear droop, moved rear shock out 1 hole, slightly stiffer rear shock oil, reduce rear toe in, forward 1 hole ackermann. Goop the whole front tyre. Funny enough none of the changes made much difference, if any.

I do have 6 degree caster block on, only cos they were the only ones I have as spares at the time. Should I go back to 4's?

What would be my next step, regarding roll center changes or any other changes? I don't have the correct length turnbuckles for front link changes though....

lengthen rear camber link?

I'm bit dumb with car setup
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:03 PM   #4791
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Went to 2.5 rear toe but was too hard to drive. Ended up on 3degree rear toe in and car is much better now, thanks for help everyone!
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Old 11-24-2011, 11:27 PM   #4792
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Went to 2.5 rear toe but was too hard to drive. Ended up on 3degree rear toe in and car is much better now, thanks for help everyone!
Glad you got your car working better. One thing that I didn't see mentioned was front camber. On carpet I could feel the difference between 1 degree and 1.5 degrees of front camber on turn in. I haven't tried it on carpet, but on asphalt, raising the rear roll center by raising the rear hinge pins really woke the car up for me.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:21 AM   #4793
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So will there be an upgrade kit for the 6 to a 6.1? Or will all of us recent tc6 purchasers be forced to cobble one together?
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Old 11-25-2011, 10:33 AM   #4794
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I'd suggest second options if you want to do it soon, don't forget you do not need everything...
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:41 PM   #4795
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I know this isn't the right section but I think I'm gonna sell my new tc6 I just picked up. If anyone wants it please pm me. I have decided to change hobbies for the mean time now.
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Old 11-26-2011, 04:55 AM   #4796
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Rick I have a question, did you or any other team drivers tried the new diff gear with only 2 satellite gears instead of 4, as used in the Serpent 411?

If so can you tell us what was the result?

I am a little surprise that only 2 are used in their car.(apparently for weight purpose)

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What's up with Juho's set-up from ATS?
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:58 PM   #4798
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I'm interested in Hebert's setup from the indoor champs. Just watched him through a couple rounds of qualifying and that car is dialed.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:49 PM   #4799
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hi guys. How do you guys like the tc6. Do you think it will be better to get an xray or to just get a tc6. I have a tc5r now and i want to get a new tc.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:28 AM   #4800
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Hi Guys

Ran my TC6 today, First raceday out with it.

Very nice to run, a wee bit tailey coming out of the corners

Any fix for that?

basicly running stock setup
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