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USIC USGT 2016 Motor and Chassis list in qualifing order

TQ A.F. TSR A800
2nd D.J. TeamPowers A800
3rd B.S. TSR A800
4th M.L. TSR A800
5th M.F TeamPowers A800
6th D.J TSR Destiny
7th J.W. Trinity Monster '17 Xray
8th C.V TSR Destiny
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19 M.K. Reedy Powered M3 AE TC7
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:10 AM
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The McLaren and Pagani are production touring cars available for sale.

In my opinion, the Mazda should not be legal.

Violates the "spirit" of the rules.
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Originally Posted by DarthRacer
It's a GT body.

and I have one! Gonna have to paint it now
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Originally Posted by .crispy
In my opinion, the Mazda should not be legal.

Violates the "spirit" of the rules.
I agree. I've always had it in my mind that this class is focused on production-based GT or Showroom Stock-type race cars. Also, I'm fine with the supercar bodies (Lamborghinis, Zondas, etc.) as they're actually being produced for the public (albeit wealthy) to buy. That prototype Mazda falls under none of these mindsets...


...and is better suited to Ben Afleck as Batman than it does on the track. You might as well include Charlie Sheen's Dodge M4S Turbo Interceptor from the movie "The Wraith."

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Originally Posted by .crispy
The McLaren and Pagani are production touring cars available for sale.

In my opinion, the Mazda should not be legal.

Violates the "spirit" of the rules.
Per Kevin K - this body is legal and has been used at the nationals... Back one page on Page 84....

Link to the body: Link But the shipping cost is nuts from this site....

or

Another link: Link in Chicagoland....
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Originally Posted by bvoltz
Per Kevin K - this body is legal and has been used at the nationals......
Understood.

But we disagree. Not that it matters.

I see that opening the door to a host of "prototypes" that are going to be essentially the same as cars they are "discouraging".
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Originally Posted by .crispy
Understood.

But we disagree. Not that it matters.

I see that opening the door to a host of "prototypes" that are going to be essentially the same as cars they are "discouraging".
Understand... I was just asking for clarification, not for it or against it...

What I can tell you... it has Zero benefit over other bodies from a performance view, on the track or lap times....
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:21 AM
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You mean that huge front air dam doesn't provide tons of downforce?
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At risk of getting off on a tangent, I have one of these bodies as well. I won't run it in USGT because I also feel that it isn't in line with the spirit of the USGT rules (which I have a great deal of respect for). What irks me is that I can't run it in WGT. In fact, it's my understanding that the quintessential GT car, the many iterations of the 911, arent' legal is WGT because they aren't F/R in engine/drive configuration.
Will be running my C5 Corvette in USGT for now, and will soon be running my 1998 Panoz Esperante GT1. :-)

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Originally Posted by DarthRacer
It's a GT body.

wing doesnt look like it can take a lot of abuse?
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Originally Posted by bigwavedave33
and I have one! Gonna have to paint it now
I had 1 of these for a short time. It really does not fit anything properly except for IFS type suspensions and really low shock towers.

I put it on a TC6 after it being to high for a T3, and meticulously tired to get it to fit as best as it could. Slotting out for the shock towers on both ends to get it as close as possible to the proper height. Best I could get was about 6-7mm were it should have been.

On chassis with lowered shock towers it might fit better. The initial turn in was pretty aggressive as well. It looked cool going around the track for club races.
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Originally Posted by ercwhtsd
I had 1 of these for a short time. It really does not fit anything properly except for IFS type suspensions and really low shock towers.

I put it on a TC6 after it being to high for a T3, and meticulously tired to get it to fit as best as it could. Slotting out for the shock towers on both ends to get it as close as possible to the proper height. Best I could get was about 6-7mm were it should have been.

On chassis with lowered shock towers it might fit better. The initial turn in was pretty aggressive as well. It looked cool going around the track for club races.
So what you are saying is that is good fit for a T4...
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Originally Posted by .crispy
The McLaren and Pagani are production touring cars available for sale.

In my opinion, the Mazda should not be legal.

Violates the "spirit" of the rules.
Agreed 100%. Legal or not, that Mazda prototype doesn't fit the spirit of USGT, IMO. Not even close.

However, as exotic street cars get more and more radical, the line between legal/illegal is going to get blurred. I hope the powers that be will keep an eye on this trend and tweak the rules accordingly so we don't all end up running low slung hyper car bodies just to remain competitive.
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Anybody running the front wheel drive in the USAGT??
how did it go?
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I have to agree with the guys that say that the Mazda body violates the "spirit" of the body rules. A good way to start killing the class is to start allowing "one off" bodies like this to be legal. Now, if there were enough bodies and interest (racers) in doing a 'prototype' division within USGT, then great but if not, participants should stick with the bodies that are replicas of the cars that are actually being run in the 1:1 GT/Touring Car series.
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Does anyone have any feedback for the Chevy Camaro ZL1 Clear Body from Protoform? Good / Bad for USGT?
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