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08-16-2013, 08:28 AM
#1172
Tech Addict
I came to this thread to see if there was any discussion about what bodies are legal and what bodies are people using and whoa boy, is it ever being discussed...
The problem with the above is that the rules say this:
Therein lies the problem. Using the word "discouraged" carries no legal weight.
Whereas I might agree with the spirit of what Ropes is saying, which is exactly the spirit of the suggestions in the rules, until the rules are firmed up, we're going to have this kind of discussion over and over and over...
Come on, guys. Is it really necessary to ask for help deciding if a body is legal for the class? The answer should be in the name of the class itself, USGT. Not USRally, USHillClimb, USOffRoad, or USRecordBreakingGroundSpeedSetter.
I think, and it's just my opinion, that if you wouldn't see that body in the any of the Grand-AM Rolex or Continental Tire Series, keep in mind that the Daytona Prototypes have already been ruled out if I recall correctly, then it's probably not in the scope of the class.
Please don't stop sharing your pictures of your favorite cars and paint jobs...but the application of common sense goes a long way with the patience of many. I rarely make a post of opinion so don't take this as a bash in anyone's particular direction.
I love this class...it's fun to race and it's fun to watch. But the thing I love the most is that someone finally made "good use" of all the body shells that HPI, Tamiya, ProtoForm and the others were making, that weren't ROAR approved, and bring them into the spotlight. Let's not dillute that with other specific racing class inspired cars.
I think, and it's just my opinion, that if you wouldn't see that body in the any of the Grand-AM Rolex or Continental Tire Series, keep in mind that the Daytona Prototypes have already been ruled out if I recall correctly, then it's probably not in the scope of the class.
Please don't stop sharing your pictures of your favorite cars and paint jobs...but the application of common sense goes a long way with the patience of many. I rarely make a post of opinion so don't take this as a bash in anyone's particular direction.
I love this class...it's fun to race and it's fun to watch. But the thing I love the most is that someone finally made "good use" of all the body shells that HPI, Tamiya, ProtoForm and the others were making, that weren't ROAR approved, and bring them into the spotlight. Let's not dillute that with other specific racing class inspired cars.
Body Specifications:
Any 190mm or 200mm body. Body can be any body that is NOT on the ROAR T2 body list. FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies However, Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies are also discouraged NO Trucks
Any "SCALE" molded wings can be used. Lexan wings 10mm maximum height / side dam height
Scale type race liveries encouraged
Any 190mm or 200mm body. Body can be any body that is NOT on the ROAR T2 body list. FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies However, Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies are also discouraged NO Trucks
Any "SCALE" molded wings can be used. Lexan wings 10mm maximum height / side dam height
Scale type race liveries encouraged
Whereas I might agree with the spirit of what Ropes is saying, which is exactly the spirit of the suggestions in the rules, until the rules are firmed up, we're going to have this kind of discussion over and over and over...
08-16-2013, 08:38 AM
#1173
Tech Addict
I didn't see this "addendum" listed in your Notes section of the Southern Nationals thread?
08-16-2013, 09:30 AM
#1174
I came to this thread to see if there was any discussion about what bodies are legal and what bodies are people using and whoa boy, is it ever being discussed...
The problem with the above is that the rules say this:
Therein lies the problem. Using the word "discouraged" carries no legal weight.
Whereas I might agree with the spirit of what Ropes is saying, which is exactly the spirit of the suggestions in the rules, until the rules are firmed up, we're going to have this kind of discussion over and over and over...
The problem with the above is that the rules say this:
Therein lies the problem. Using the word "discouraged" carries no legal weight.
Whereas I might agree with the spirit of what Ropes is saying, which is exactly the spirit of the suggestions in the rules, until the rules are firmed up, we're going to have this kind of discussion over and over and over...
08-16-2013, 09:39 AM
#1175
Tech Addict
All they need to do is add something like:
"Body must a production 'touring car' that you can buy for personal use."
So whereas a McLaren or Zonda fits the bill (barely) the exotic racing cars that are named the same as a production car, would not be.
Simple. Done. No more issues.
FWIW, "Grand Touring" as in the GT part of USGT isn't even well defined or isn't consistent throughout all parts of the world. Originally "touring car" meant convertible.
"Body must a production 'touring car' that you can buy for personal use."
So whereas a McLaren or Zonda fits the bill (barely) the exotic racing cars that are named the same as a production car, would not be.
Simple. Done. No more issues.
FWIW, "Grand Touring" as in the GT part of USGT isn't even well defined or isn't consistent throughout all parts of the world. Originally "touring car" meant convertible.
08-16-2013, 10:01 AM
#1176
I would check out http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...hats-best.html
08-16-2013, 10:09 AM
#1177
Yes you are going to want a fan with any motor you are running. The more you push your motor the hotter it gets. Also cooling it with a fan makes it last longer. I am not aware of any of the "fast guys" running without one. Only class I can see maybe not running a fan is USVTA but I still think most do it to help prolong motor life.
I would check out http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...hats-best.html
I would check out http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...hats-best.html
08-16-2013, 10:26 AM
#1178
this is such a funny group sometimes - you want a class that isn't allowed to use the POPULAR "FAST" touring bodies that EVERYONE Races at large races - so you leave the rules vague and call it GT
What most FAIL to see is a World Sports Car , Daytona Proto TYpe, LeMans Proto Type type body IS STILL GT (Just like the old G T P was )
So maybe consider another LETTER designation on your USGT class like USGT"O" (OPEN) , USGT "L" (Limited)
Add and Define the rules to be INCLUSIVE for those who have that "Special" interest.
What most FAIL to see is a World Sports Car , Daytona Proto TYpe, LeMans Proto Type type body IS STILL GT (Just like the old G T P was )
So maybe consider another LETTER designation on your USGT class like USGT"O" (OPEN) , USGT "L" (Limited)
Add and Define the rules to be INCLUSIVE for those who have that "Special" interest.
08-16-2013, 11:25 AM
#1179
What is a typical FDR and motor timing setting for USGT?
I was doing some testing with my car last night and had it setup with an FDR near 4.0 like my VTA car and the motor got very hot. ESC temp was OK and set in blinky mode, no drag brake. Motor timing is set at the stock setting of 30 degrees. Battery is 30C 5000mAh. Car is an Xray T2 008.
I was doing some testing with my car last night and had it setup with an FDR near 4.0 like my VTA car and the motor got very hot. ESC temp was OK and set in blinky mode, no drag brake. Motor timing is set at the stock setting of 30 degrees. Battery is 30C 5000mAh. Car is an Xray T2 008.
You may need to gear lower anyway. At 4.0 you might be over-reving so the motor never gets to slow down and breath.
08-16-2013, 02:27 PM
#1183
Make sure you are temping inside the can vents- not just the outside surface.
08-18-2013, 05:46 AM
#1184
What is a typical FDR and motor timing setting for USGT?
I was doing some testing with my car last night and had it setup with an FDR near 4.0 like my VTA car and the motor got very hot. ESC temp was OK and set in blinky mode, no drag brake. Motor timing is set at the stock setting of 30 degrees. Battery is 30C 5000mAh. Car is an Xray T2 008.
I was doing some testing with my car last night and had it setup with an FDR near 4.0 like my VTA car and the motor got very hot. ESC temp was OK and set in blinky mode, no drag brake. Motor timing is set at the stock setting of 30 degrees. Battery is 30C 5000mAh. Car is an Xray T2 008.
