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Old 01-05-2004, 10:46 PM   #8356
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I've been running a swaybar for months. Just something I tried one day and it felt good and just left it on. I may be nuts, but it actually seems to give the car more grip on that end on asphault. I know they're supposed to take traction away at that end but it dosen't seem that way.
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Old 01-05-2004, 10:52 PM   #8357
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at the TCS nationals, when I went to a heavier swaybar, it gave my car more steering, but on carpet it will take steering away. Also a rear sway bar gave me more rear traction instead of freeing the rear up. asphalt and carpet are 2 different beasts. I also know Paulie will run without a swaybar at some tracks too.
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Old 01-05-2004, 10:52 PM   #8358
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You really had us going on that one...Thanks for setting the record straight.

Pleeeeeeeeeze more, more, more...Hanging on your every word...he, he...

My XXX-s G+ has been Matt Francis-tized with the servo link connected to the far side of the draglink (for better geometry) and an extra body support (he uses 5th body post on the tunnel while I use glued foam battery block) beneath the hood before the transition to the windshield to eliminate body flex (and cracking at top of front wheel wells).

Really great mods and direction from the Team Losi guys for us mortals.

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Old 01-05-2004, 11:04 PM   #8359
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Can you post some pics of this other steering mod? I currently have mine mounted in the middle of the rack?

Also, pics of the 5th body post would be cool.

Todd, do you use the 5th body post?

Curious how helpful is team losi gonna be at snowbirds with setup for non-sponsored losi drivers? I've never ran on foams before........and nobody around here has ran stock foam, so were gonna do some experimenting. Got any suggestions?

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Old 01-05-2004, 11:56 PM   #8360
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Steering mod...Just replace the 4-40 x 3/8" button head screw on the far side of the draglink with a standard 4-40 ball stud (long) and put together a fairly long turnbuckle that will reach from the servo through the opening in the tunnel to that new stud. Matt F said that going to the center should achieve about the same results.

5th body post...Matt F used another front body post for this mod. The front post already has the hole up through its bottom to affix it to the top of the tunnel (drills hole in tunnel) using a screw from the inside to fasten. Think he had to drill a couple lateral holes in the post for the standard body mount swival (and affixes with standard body clips).

My version of the 5th body post was to cut down an Associated battery filler block (about 3/8" x 1" x 2" of fairly dense foam) down to the correct height/contour of the space between the hood and the top of the tunnel. Then CAed it to the top of the tunnel. I can press down heavily at the back center of the hood and it does the trick very nicely. With my solution, a transponder won't fit very well on top of the tunnel; so, I may resort to Matt's 5th post setup at some time down the road.

Matt F and Todd H just want to get us'ins Losi drivers up to speed. And I thank them for their unselfish deeds.

Hope this helps...Too lazy to get digital camera out.

Now back to putting together yet another XXX-S for the 2nd Annual Northwest Carpet Championships at Stockton this weekend.
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:03 AM   #8361
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As xxx-s bill said it's just a silver ballstud replacing the screw that goes in the steering assembly. Just get a lunsford turnbuckle and two long ball studs and make a new turnbuckle link. I forget what size I have on my car. Here are some pics.

Bill - Who are you? I'm also in the process of going through my car for this weekends race as well as wednesday nights race.
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Old 01-06-2004, 01:38 AM   #8365
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So what does that accomplish? And where do I find just one long Lunsford turnbuckle?

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Old 01-06-2004, 02:17 AM   #8366
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Hi,

Does anybody have a good setup for an outdoor asphalt track on foam tires...?

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Old 01-06-2004, 02:56 AM   #8367
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Who here runs swaybars? Looks like Brian Kinwald is one of the few team drivers who runs one... At leats on asphalt.

i run swaybars on asphalt, in my opinion, the higher the bite, the more swaybars are needed, (like carpet or when using foam tires) to keep the car flatter during cornering... there were several instances that i saw 1 of my front tires lift off the ground, during high speed corners... using sway bars, made a huge difference.

i found that the front swaybars made my transitioning a little slower in the chicanes, making the car more predictable all around.
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thanks alot todd, im running 30/128 right now so ill go up.

also guys, why does everyone run smaller foam tires, say trued down to 59mm when they come from the factory at like 64? is it just easier to get the ride height wiht less drop
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James,

I am the orange 76 car in Sportsman Stock at Stockton carpets. Just like my last real SCCA race car; but, lacking the sponsorship.

Far more concerned about my driving than my car setup at this point.

You drove great at the last Stockton race...Even with that sun in your eyes. See ya tomorrow night...Fortunately, no sun to worry about then.

Thanks for pushing the envelope...Nice pictures.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:49 PM   #8370
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do any of you guys have your belt move from left to right when the wheels are going forward, noticed that yesterday.
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