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Old 11-24-2003, 03:58 PM   #7876
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Are you measuring the shock shaft with the ball cup on the end or without the ball cup?

I just take a Stanley knife and take the top of the screw part of the bumper off so it's flush with the rest of the bumper, if you look at the car from below the hole for the screw is still there and it all looks standard.

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Old 11-24-2003, 04:09 PM   #7877
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:05 PM   #7878
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Yeah Troy, but I've never been beaten by a TA04 with a Mabuchi in Stock

Proracer If you have the XXX-S GP, the front and rear shock shafts are different lengths.
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:10 PM   #7879
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okay, just remembered this, my xxx-s is a old version coversion. So the shock shafts are all the same, and when i took the shocks apart, the rears(or fronts, hehe), had orange pistons/spacer things, and the other had black, whats the difference?, i know that orange is 55, and black is 57?, so what goes in front and back.

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Old 11-24-2003, 05:44 PM   #7880
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okay, just remembered this, my xxx-s is a old version coversion. So the shock shafts are all the same, and when i took the shocks apart, the rears(or fronts, hehe), had orange pistons/spacer things, and the other had black, whats the difference?, i know that orange is 55, and black is 57?, so what goes in front and back.
I run 56 (Red) in front and 55 (orange) in the rear with 50wt oil. Green front springs, silver rear. And it's a G+, and from time to time I run all the same length shocks depending on what I am experimenting with. But put the 57's up front.

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Old 11-24-2003, 06:32 PM   #7881
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would orange in the front, black in the back work, i really don't want to have to run t he store. How do you change the shock lenght, is it just unscrewing the ball cup, and shouldn't it be almost all the way in.
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:51 PM   #7882
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Pro3racer-Put the black 57's in the front and the orange 55's in the rear. If you can make it to Road Rage, let me know and I can help you with the car. The shock length will vary depending on your tire size if you don't use the drop screws.

Hopefully Gary will come through on the project and make life easier.

Losi shocks aren't bad once you figure out how to build them. I use to hate them and actually tried HPI shocks when the car first came out. The car never felt like it responded or felt the same as with standard shocks.
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:55 PM   #7883
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bigger the hole in rear (54,55,56..)will give you more steering and smaller the hole (56,57,60... ) in front will keep the car flat on the ground !

I think !
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No Pressure, eh Brian? LOL.

You're going to be at the track tomorrow?
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:59 PM   #7885
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Hey guys,

just wondering does anyone here run ceramic bearings in the xxxs? what do you think of them? is the a big effeciency improvement?

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Old 11-24-2003, 08:03 PM   #7886
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brian- i'll be at RR on the sat. race, i only race big races, haha, no just kiddin, i can only make it those distances on weekends. Okay, 57's, orange springs, and probably on brand new purples all around, not trued, because i need them to last, so like 60 mm. Then 55's and black springs in the back, no droop anywhere, i'll get it tweaked, and i like the height around 3.5-4
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:28 PM   #7887
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hi all,

Seems that all of yea discussing about the shock piston. So whats the difference with all the different shock pistons? Which one is considered to be the best combo piston/shock oil/spring on an asphalt track?

Another thing need to ask you all is the effects of the roll center. What effect would i get with these various combo's. HRC Front & Rear, LRC Front & Rear, HRC Front/LRC Rear & LRC Front/HRC Rear. Just need some general explanation.
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lozi- the all around best piston (IMO) is the 56 (redish) piston. as far as oil I like 40-50wt on asphalt.
I can't really offer you a spring but you can't go wrong with blue fronts and silver rears to start.
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I'm on an indoor asphalt track and my Losi is hooked up with 40wt oil all around, blue springs in front and red springs in the back. Low-roll centers front and back.

Low-roll center allow the car to roll more in the turn. Also, make sure your front dif is a bit tighter then the back and if the back of your car is still sliding around corners move your back camber links out one position. I also run -1.5 camber all around. 2R block in the front and 0R block in the back. 4mm droop in the back and 2mm in the front. And of course 5mm ride height. My car is STUCK! Give it a try if you're looking for a nice asphalt setup.

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Old 11-25-2003, 03:16 PM   #7890
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hey, i put the shocks back on, and my car sits 10mm up, what did i do wrong, all i did was rebuild them(correctly), and put them on, are there spacers to put on if you don't have droop or something, or am i supposed to put the springs on while the shock is compressed????
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