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Old 07-09-2003, 08:40 AM   #6601
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Default Steel diff outdrives...

I ended up triing them last Saturday, I wasn't but a nasty accident in round 1 left me with a chopped tooth on my composite diff..... whiich I found while on the stand in round 2....thank god for computer problems!!! I ended up making round 2!!!

I felt with a stock motor they do slow acceleration slightly, They also add front traction, but not on-power steering...which is what I was hopeing for........ Personnally I don't care for them..........



That's it!!!! I'm ordering a one-way
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roborat/lars- i haven't run a steel a spool on carpet or asphalt only plastic; i tend to run a diff whenever possible, adjusted tighter than the rear. as for the steel, i think you aren't going to notice the traction difference (front vs. rear) when applied with a stock motor. i would recommend a plastic spool, b/c of the extra rotating mass. the steel outdrives are a pretty common offroad component, practically standard issue for most electric 2wd's and trucks. hard to believe your LHS doesn't have any at all...and as far as the losi brown grease, i am not sure if it commercially available yet.

highwayman- actually, i feel that heavier oil has the opposite effect, making the car LESS forgiving, because it will respond and transition quicker (compared to lighter oil).



impactplayr- spools are unforgiving. even with a glancing blow to the front of the car, expect cracked arms/carriers, bent CVD's, shattered outdrive halves, and i supposed even chipped teeth (?). this is going to happen regardless of the car- losi, associated, xray, schumacher, etc. because there is no differential action at the moment of impact, the force of that impact is directly transfered to parts and components surrounding the front spool...
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I wasn't using a spool at all, I started using a composite diff, switched t a steel diff, and back to a new composite diff for the main........ I'm still ordering a one-way.....
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:25 AM   #6604
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i think the brown grease is available, we used to use it in the street weapn, and it was from the old trans.....i dont know the ## though, i will look in my old notes...
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...actually, i feel that heavier oil has the opposite effect, making the car LESS forgiving, because it will respond and transition quicker (compared to lighter oil).
I always felt, the heavier oil always seemed to slow down the roll rate/shock response. Heavier springs transitioned the weight quicker and sped up the transitions though.

As far as a "forgiving" car, I usually relate that to balance between front and back. A slower moving (heavier weighted oil), slightly understeering car always was the easiest for me to drive. It also isn't very fast.

I guess the point is go out and test to see what works best for you. Every driver is different.
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mr. losi- i think you may be right on that, i have some of that grease you are describing, i just couldn't remember where i got it. i will check on the part no. and post...
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i think the brown grease is available, we used to use it in the street weapn, and it was from the old trans.....i dont know the ## though, i will look in my old notes...
Yea,it is available still.Part# ? I cant recall.
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J.FILIPOW:

was reading your carpet set-up... wouldn't the front low roll center and 2F produce zero kick-up?
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Yea,it is available still.Part# ? I cant recall.
I beleive it is A3012.

I tried checking Horizon to double check the #, but came up empty.

I just bought some last summer.
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Old 07-09-2003, 02:07 PM   #6610
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Any comments on the durability of the XXX-s oneway. I know the XXX-4 drivers where going thru them like popcorn.
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Tom-the oneways are fine in the sedan. In the off-road car the problem is in the CVD length, with some hand fitting they are fine.

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Thanks for the info Chad. Looks like a very tight track with alot of 180 turns this weekend so maybe a oneway is not the ticket. Tim should have the track open Thursday night for practice and then all day friday.
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quite durable, although not indestructuble, a few minor bumps wont destroy your one way...
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A year and a half on my one-way, and i had one side's bearing go bad. The roller pins started falling out. Swapped it out, and haven't had a problem since.
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that's one more thing good with the losi one way, you can just change one side...
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