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Old 01-15-2003, 03:25 AM   #4966
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What are the main advantages (or disadvantages) of the Yellow belt over the original Blue belt when used in STOCK or MODIFIED?
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Old 01-15-2003, 05:45 AM   #4967
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Slicks weigh less than treads, and most inserts are lighter than the losi pieces....... With the right wheel/tire/insert combo rubbers should be as light as if not lighter than foams....... [/B]
That fact alone should get me down to weight with rubbers. Glad to know it's just the stock wheels/tyres/inserts and not all rubber tyre combos.
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Old 01-15-2003, 08:33 AM   #4968
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Ortiz - You don't want to run the stock black spring retainers anyways - pick up the Trinity ones instead - the black plactic ones will actually get loose really fast and actually change position on the shock....

Senna - Losi claims efficiency... but I have also noticed more punch out of the car - the belt isn't stretching and rebounding. This seems to work well in both stock and mod. I too would stay away from cutting the belt in half, the very small gain isn't worth the chance of the belt breaking and not finishing a race!

Those with glitching issues.... Yes, the batteries can cause glitching when they come into contact with the chassis... but also pay VERY clost attention to where the antenna runs in respect to the chassis - don't let it touch the chassis itself.

For those of you looking to lose weight on the cars... be careful of what you mill out on the chassis - especially the G+, it has already been milled out. Take the weight out of other areas - such as the body itself, its amazing how much paint can weigh!! Following that, I went to aluminum screws... still haven't broken one on the car. BUT remember that the most important areas on the car to take the weight from are all of the rotating parts... ie, pinion, axles, wheel/tire combo, etc. The weight in those areas actually has the effect of that weight squared (if memory serves from physics) SO, start there before you start milling anything out on the chassis, or taking other parts off of the car.

If you carry the corner speed, the acceleration difference for an ounce of weight won't matter.... better lines, not more holes in the car.

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Old 01-15-2003, 08:40 AM   #4969
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hey guys quick question , i have the graphite car now and enjoy it. but my question is : is it worth buying the new G+ or just add the new parts to my graphite car that i have? is there much difference between the 2 to justify buying the new car?

Im sure glad someone talked me into this xxxs car
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Old 01-15-2003, 08:50 AM   #4970
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Put it this way - the car comes withclose to $250 of parts you would purchase anyways.... But the car is still the same basic car - if you already have all of the add-ons on your XXXS, I wouldn't pick it up.

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Old 01-15-2003, 09:17 AM   #4971
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I had been running the original XXX-S since a week or two after it was released. Kit #3 from my hobby shop.. I just bought a Graphite Plus on New Years day, put it together that night, and raced it the next sunday. There is a difference! I put Paul's carpet nats setup into the car, with the only changes being the new rear end parts, and silver springs all the way around. I was happy with the car on the first run.

A week after that was the Novak USTC race @ S&N Trackside. I was debating on running my old car untill after the USTC, as I was afraid it would take a while to free up, the belt to situate, all that good stuff.. I ran the car for about one hour total on the T-35 @ 2v with an old (junk) mod motor just to free up the drivetrain. I also degreased only the bearings inside the tunnel, left all the bearings in the carriers alone.. The car, after one race, and about one hour total on the T-35 ( 5-10minutes at a time), the graphite plus rolls better than my old car!

The first race with it, the diffs weren't even broken in.. They kept coming loose untill the last heat.
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Old 01-15-2003, 10:02 AM   #4972
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I notice most of you guys run carpet tracks with the car ,do you run aspahlt and concrete also with it and does it do as well on those surfaces? i really like the xxxs graphite and i guess should go ahead and buy the G+ but just wanted some insight on the car .


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I run on asphault in the summer mostly. I haven't run the GP+ on asphault yet, as outdoor seasons are closed for the winter.

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Old 01-15-2003, 02:28 PM   #4974
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Ortiz - You don't want to run the stock black spring retainers anyways - pick up the Trinity ones instead - the black plactic ones will actually get loose really fast and actually change position on the shock....

Hey can you give me the part number?? Can't seem to find them!!
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i run my xxxs on parking lot surface n the best thing tat i like is the sealed drive belt.small rocks n sands r not a problem...
jus have 2 take care of the ride height...
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I've never even put the stock plastic collars on my shocks, I got the Trinity blue ones. They work excellently, look cool and most importantly go well with my blue option parts, and my XXX-S is dialed with blue springs front and rear
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Old 01-15-2003, 03:39 PM   #4978
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TSR6 - I too have been running the XXXS since the day it was avail... but to be quite honest there is very little difference in the car from the car I had raced until I picked my G+ up.

The short shocks, alum CVD's, Ti turnbuckles, etc. are all race parts which most people racing the XXXS on a daily basis have already put on their cars.

The new belt, shock tower, and rear end are a running change, the chassis is milled out further - but the other changes are also running changed (ackerman, battery slots, etc)

To me - this makes the car no better than the Kinward buggy is to the XXX.

Same car - just nicer trim package.... pimped out like the gold trim caddy's


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Old 01-15-2003, 03:55 PM   #4979
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I notice most of you guys run carpet tracks with the car ,do you run aspahlt and concrete also with it and does it do as well on those surfaces? i really like the xxxs graphite and i guess should go ahead and buy the G+ but just wanted some insight on the car .


thanks guys

From what Todd Hodge has said. The non offset rear on the lower mount position of the new rear tower works well outside. Gives more bite. Alot of the G+ design changes were mainly for indoor crapet. The ofset rear helps the car turn in faster etc. When racing asphalt the setups seem to favor the nonoffset and high roll position. Really depends on the track layout.

only thing you would get out of buying a new kit is the front and rear stiff bumpers, yellow belt, offset rear arms (which the regular should work outdoor) and rear shock tower.

Now if you don't have the short shocks etc... then I would say yes.
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Old 01-15-2003, 04:09 PM   #4980
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thanks guys i guess i will ponder a while on it and see what i come up with i really like new cars who knows!

but thanks to all for the info im learning alot from reading what you guys have to say
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