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Old 12-14-2002, 09:59 AM   #4621
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Hey i didn't notice any diffrent between XXX-S (Graphite Upgrade)
with XXX-S Graphite ++
The only diffrent thing i saw is the shock towers(more holes)
And belts (color)

Anymore diffrent part?
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Old 12-14-2002, 10:24 AM   #4622
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new rear A arms and hubs?...
also the xxxs G+ edition has titanium turnbuckles...
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Old 12-14-2002, 10:32 AM   #4623
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Anymore stuff ?
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Old 12-14-2002, 10:36 AM   #4624
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can't remember them all...
if u r comparing the G+ to the standard edition...
threaded shocks also...
check losi website and you will know...
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Old 12-14-2002, 12:39 PM   #4625
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XXX-SGP,
new high efficient yellow belt,
new lighter milled chassis(saves 1/2 oz over the current milled chassis),
new thicker alum cvd's
new rear shock tower with new lower camber mounting holes
new offset rear
new front bumper foam and body mount brace
pads for a spool
TL 24mm mesh wheels
high and low roll cernter blocks
full graphite parts
Titanium buckles
bearings all the way around
threaded shocks with gshaft (.28 and .36)
and of course the new TEAM LOSI Alfa body.


DO NOT use the older style bumper brace with this.. The bumper is made to deflect UP and using the older top brace will just crack your bumper.
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Old 12-14-2002, 12:41 PM   #4626
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The newer style chassis is worth it just because it keeps the batteries in better.
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Old 12-15-2002, 12:31 AM   #4627
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weaker and flexes more.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:02 AM   #4628
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The tunnel design has not changed. And the tunnel is the main structural design of the chassis that controls its stiffness characteristics. The two flat parts for the electronics and the battery can basically be considered trays. The chassis is just as rigid from shock tower to shock tower as before. The XXX-s chassis is argueably the most rigid chassis in the TC market to this point.

In fact, the chassis is a definite improvement as it provides for better more secure electronics placement and mounting as well as keeping your battery more securely in the car upon crashes.
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Old 12-15-2002, 06:05 AM   #4629
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Yeah I have the graphite set on my car, and there is no chassis flex whatsoever. I have never had a car this stiff before. As for mounting the electronics, I use velcro, and mount the reciever to the back of the steering servo as well as the chassis, its not going anywhere. My GT7 is a snug fit with the cap on the side, and its also mounted with velcro. Haven't had a problem yet.
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Old 12-15-2002, 09:34 AM   #4630
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Ran my new XXX-S Graphite Plus and it was awesome. I TQ'ed and ran my fastest times in about 8 weeks. This is the first time I ran the Losi touring car. It responds well to adjustments and that made it alot easier to tune in.

I didn't care for new Alpha body though. It wonders alot down the straights. When I went to a Stratus and this problem disappeared completely. That was the only thing that I did to make it easy to drive.

It is a very nice car and needs nothing extra to make the car fast. Everything you need is in the kit except a good driver and mechanic to build it correctly.
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How does the NEW YELLOW BELT improve performance? Does it effect acceleration of top speed? Any comments?
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Old 12-15-2002, 02:06 PM   #4632
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The new belt is softer and more flexible. It won't skip as much as the old blue belts do under a heavy acceleration and hard braking. I run mine fairly loose and it don't skip in stock. In mod I might have to tighten it a tad.

I'm not sure about the performance but after running my new XXX-S Plus for the first time this weekend it is the freest car out except for the TC3. It spins freely with about zero drag. I have had aton of other blet touring cars and nothing matches this one for being free and I didn't even clean out the factory grease in the bearings either. I never liked Losi but this car is super nice and I might just become a Losi user more often now.
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had problems with the old chassis. Batteries? What was the problem.
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There wasn't a good enough stop on the side... so if you were hit hard enough they would fly out the side.

It was a problem for a handful of people. Happy you never had the problem...
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anyone using solid-spool setup? is there an advantage with this setup or im better off using ball diffs? im running stock at high bite asphalt.


also, should i use overdrive/underdrive? or im better off with stock 42/42?
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