Hobbywing vs Tekin
04-24-2011, 12:32 PM
#46
two of best !
Tekin in Stock class & 12/1
Hobbywing in MOD class
Tekin in Stock class & 12/1
Hobbywing in MOD class
04-24-2011, 03:10 PM
#47
I thought Stuart (cherry2blost)from racers in exile and giant cod were giving you the service you require ?
04-24-2011, 06:18 PM
#48
Tech Regular
Tekin is a great brand with a gentlemen behind the company in jim campbell.There product is excellent with innovation,support and performance .
Hobbywing is also a top product with excellent performance ,support and innovation which in time will only get better and better .
So both have the own right tekin and hobbywing and it's up to the customer on what product they choose but whatever they choose they will be happy with any of the two .
The problem with some American manufacturers is they try to stop other abroad manufacturers from entering the US market by producing patents that they havent even innovated NOW that is protectionism this does not hold the customer loyal as there only trying to stop competition and choice which inturn makes the customer walk away not only from the product but the sport .
Hobbywing is different we hold the customer with support,innovation and quality not patents .That's the big difference between us and others .
we thought long and hard in the last couple of months with aquiring patents for our innovation but sat and thought why should we go down that path we know we are the designers and the innovators and thats more than enough for us .why spend money on lawyers for patents when we can spend that money on innovation for our loyal customers .The ones who Aquire patents and well know that its not there innovation only tells me they are falling behind the eight ball in patenting old tech and dont think in moving forward with new tech .In other words they have reached there limits
Hobbywing is also a top product with excellent performance ,support and innovation which in time will only get better and better .
So both have the own right tekin and hobbywing and it's up to the customer on what product they choose but whatever they choose they will be happy with any of the two .
The problem with some American manufacturers is they try to stop other abroad manufacturers from entering the US market by producing patents that they havent even innovated NOW that is protectionism this does not hold the customer loyal as there only trying to stop competition and choice which inturn makes the customer walk away not only from the product but the sport .
Hobbywing is different we hold the customer with support,innovation and quality not patents .That's the big difference between us and others .
we thought long and hard in the last couple of months with aquiring patents for our innovation but sat and thought why should we go down that path we know we are the designers and the innovators and thats more than enough for us .why spend money on lawyers for patents when we can spend that money on innovation for our loyal customers .The ones who Aquire patents and well know that its not there innovation only tells me they are falling behind the eight ball in patenting old tech and dont think in moving forward with new tech .In other words they have reached there limits
04-24-2011, 07:03 PM
#49
I think Cobra is talking about patent "bridges" that companies build in order to monopolize designs. A friend that works for Ford explained this to me and said it was common in the auto industry.
Tom
Tom
04-24-2011, 07:18 PM
#50
Thats all.
04-24-2011, 07:19 PM
#51
That's an interesting post.
America is indeed on the decline. In 1980, when Reagan came to power, America was the biggest creditor nation on earth. In 1988, when he left, it was the biggest debtor nation on earth, a position it has only enhanced in the 20+ years that have followed. America is already 'Made in China', as a visit to any shop there will clearly show. The US seems to want everything cheap, so it buys it from abroad (or, in the case of its automotive industry, from manufacturers who send the profits abroad), and borrows the money to do it. The UK is not far behind...
50 years ago we lived in a world where protectionism was rampant, and people were stuck with whatever the local market decided to make. Britain and America made terrible cars, motorcycles and white goods. As the world turned to free trade, away from protectionism, we were able to buy these from companies that made them better. If we were all patriotic, what would that quality be today? For America and the UK, pretty crap actually!!
China has people who work for low wages. They also have people who work for high wages. Poverty is in the rural areas, the industrial areas have higher standards of living. Workers in Chinese factories work less hours than those in rural areas on their farms. It's all relative. By your own admission, you have no evidence about any of the factories making these bits.
As consumers in a free market, you buy what you want where you want. If there is a better mousetrap, why not buy it? And yes, the Americans have clearly demonstrated that they do want to send their money overseas, mostly to China!! I see your point, but it seems to me that horse has bolted...
Oh, and having tried both HW and Tekin, my limited driving ability finds them equal over the race distance (12th and six-minute-GT10) with the HW having better throttle feel and costing half the price. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Woffle over!!
America is indeed on the decline. In 1980, when Reagan came to power, America was the biggest creditor nation on earth. In 1988, when he left, it was the biggest debtor nation on earth, a position it has only enhanced in the 20+ years that have followed. America is already 'Made in China', as a visit to any shop there will clearly show. The US seems to want everything cheap, so it buys it from abroad (or, in the case of its automotive industry, from manufacturers who send the profits abroad), and borrows the money to do it. The UK is not far behind...
50 years ago we lived in a world where protectionism was rampant, and people were stuck with whatever the local market decided to make. Britain and America made terrible cars, motorcycles and white goods. As the world turned to free trade, away from protectionism, we were able to buy these from companies that made them better. If we were all patriotic, what would that quality be today? For America and the UK, pretty crap actually!!
China has people who work for low wages. They also have people who work for high wages. Poverty is in the rural areas, the industrial areas have higher standards of living. Workers in Chinese factories work less hours than those in rural areas on their farms. It's all relative. By your own admission, you have no evidence about any of the factories making these bits.
As consumers in a free market, you buy what you want where you want. If there is a better mousetrap, why not buy it? And yes, the Americans have clearly demonstrated that they do want to send their money overseas, mostly to China!! I see your point, but it seems to me that horse has bolted...
Oh, and having tried both HW and Tekin, my limited driving ability finds them equal over the race distance (12th and six-minute-GT10) with the HW having better throttle feel and costing half the price. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Woffle over!!
I might be wrong, but the original poster SAM-E might not even be from USA. Probably Australia? And I read Hobbywing is very popular over there.
Tekin killed the BD and other non-programmable escs via quality and pricing.
HW is now the new esc on the block. Quality at even better pricing.
Tekin killed the BD and other non-programmable escs via quality and pricing.
HW is now the new esc on the block. Quality at even better pricing.
04-24-2011, 08:23 PM
#52
Tech Regular
The full patent process takes 3-4 years.
04-24-2011, 08:49 PM
#53
Just wanted to summarize feedback from those who have owned both HW and Tekin.
Personally, I quit TC racing when my club started to run $250 escs with laptops. It became to expensive for me.
Hobbywing brought me back into TC racing.
Not a fanboy for Hobbywing. Just a fan of rc products that are high quality and cheap.
It just seems flat and slow compared to the hobbywing.I run both Tekin and SP/HW and they are all exceptional esc's and have been using them for well over 2 years now.
...HW however is simply the best value for money and performance and actually opens ones eyes to the fact how other brands that manufacturer thier esc's in China make thier money with exhorbitant pricing but yet still dont have the quality and reliability of HW.
...HW however is simply the best value for money and performance and actually opens ones eyes to the fact how other brands that manufacturer thier esc's in China make thier money with exhorbitant pricing but yet still dont have the quality and reliability of HW.
Hobbywing brought me back into TC racing.
Not a fanboy for Hobbywing. Just a fan of rc products that are high quality and cheap.
04-25-2011, 08:10 AM
#55
Tech Fanatic
I ran my HW 1S 120A for the first time in anger this weekend, and I was impressed. It took some time to sort out the settings for my motor, but once I understood what did what, I was able to get a very good set up. Compared to my Tekin it has a better feel on the throttle, which I like. Other than that, it is heavier (but you don't need a booster or receiver battery,so slightly lighter overall) and it is bigger (but it still fits in a 12th car) and it seems to be just as fast. Since both these speed controllers are made outside the UK (see note above!!
) I can pay my money and take my choice. 
04-25-2011, 09:09 AM
#56
Americas not on the free trade bandwagon....... ok if you say so
The little man I refer to was named Ross, not geo
For the other guy, Hobbywing was around when you quit.
The little man I refer to was named Ross, not geo
For the other guy, Hobbywing was around when you quit.
04-25-2011, 12:53 PM
#58
Tech Fanatic
The man who made something north of $8bn in less than 30 years by exporting hi-tech American jobs says that we shouldn't support free trade? Er... did I miss something here?
Sorry, not having a go at you, and typing all this with a smile on my face. In reality, the issue is not for politicians to decide, it is for us to decide. We buy the products and we elect the politicians!
04-25-2011, 01:24 PM
#59
04-25-2011, 01:29 PM
#60
how about service/support?
Long time ago, Tekin was known for slow & bad service / support.
The r/c manufactures today are better in support area in my opinion, has anyone had any experience with either Hobbywing or Tekin service dept recently?
The r/c manufactures today are better in support area in my opinion, has anyone had any experience with either Hobbywing or Tekin service dept recently?