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Old 09-22-2011, 11:12 AM   #3661
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Hiro, could please explain the hinge pin mount markings ?
If a 3 degree block is + 0.5 degree then why not mark it as 3 1/2 degrees ?
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:31 AM   #3662
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okay, upon further review, it looks like the FR and RF front are the ones marked with the "plus x degree". So if I use a FR plus 1.0 degree with a FF 1.5 degree then I have a 1/2 degree pin sweep with a wider pin to pin dimension. This takes the place of the old method of using two 1.5s in the front (I'm guessing ?).
In this example would I have a 1/2 degree total, 1/4 on a side or 1/2 degree on each side ?
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okay, upon further review, it looks like the FR and RF front are the ones marked with the "plus x degree". So if I use a FR plus 1.0 degree with a FF 1.5 degree then I have a 1/2 degree pin sweep with a wider pin to pin dimension. This takes the place of the old method of using two 1.5s in the front (I'm guessing ?).
In this example would I have a 1/2 degree total, 1/4 on a side or 1/2 degree on each side ?
Thanks.
Hi jag88,

I think the number "0.5+" and "1.0+" on the new FR/RF blocks are for "mm" not for degrees. So 0.5+ is simply 0.5mm wider than the stock block and 1.0+ is 1.0mm wider.

The combo "1.0+" FR w/1.5deg FF that you mentioned is not the same as the 1.5deg blocks combo as the hinge pin width (center to center)on the "1.0+" block is 43mm while the 1.5deg block is 44mm. If you need to widen the hinge pins to 44mm, you still need to use the 1.5deg block on FR. We are also making wider than "1.0+" so we can just simply throw it in without any modification.

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Hi jag88,

I think the number "0.5+" and "1.0+" on the new FR/RF blocks are for "mm" not for degrees. So 0.5+ is simply 0.5mm wider than the stock block and 1.0+ is 1.0mm wider.

The combo "1.0+" FR w/1.5deg FF that you mentioned is not the same as the 1.5deg blocks combo as the hinge pin width (center to center)on the "1.0+" block is 43mm while the 1.5deg block is 44mm. If you need to widen the hinge pins to 44mm, you still need to use the 1.5deg block on FR. We are also making wider than "1.0+" so we can just simply throw it in without any modification.

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Now I'm really confused ! lol
So how ARE you supposed to use these blocks ??
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Now I'm really confused ! lol
So how ARE you supposed to use these blocks ??
I think i'm lost. What is the plan to use the new blocks for? Did you want to make the hinge pin width as wide as 1.5deg blocks?
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:53 PM   #3666
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okay, upon further review, it looks like the FR and RF front are the ones marked with the "plus x degree". So if I use a FR plus 1.0 degree with a FF 1.5 degree then I have a 1/2 degree pin sweep with a wider pin to pin dimension. This takes the place of the old method of using two 1.5s in the front (I'm guessing ?).
In this example would I have a 1/2 degree total, 1/4 on a side or 1/2 degree on each side ?
Thanks.
A 1.5/+1.0 front end set up would not equal a 1.5/1.5 set up. A 1.5/1.5 front end would have no arm sweep whereas the former would have half a degree of arm sweep per hinge pin.
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Anyone know of a source for JAAD Racing products in the USA?
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:00 PM   #3668
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I think i'm lost. What is the plan to use the new blocks for?


I'd like to know what these new blocks are for. Maybe a real world example of how they're supposed to be used. Maybe how the team guys use them ....
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Item #68796 is now available on our web.
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wow i guess i'm too late says out of stock with no price
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I'd like to know what these new blocks are for. Maybe a real world example of how they're supposed to be used. Maybe how the team guys use them ....
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They make it so the servo must travel further to give full steering throw. It increases resolution and makes the steering feel more precise and smoother. Similar to the way the tamiya knuckles effect our car, but these are designed specifically for our car and fit properly.

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Edit... I thought you meant the steering blocks and knuckles. The wider suspension blocks make the front end have a higher roll stiffness. Usually wider suspension blocks give you more initial turn in, and a little less steering through the middle and exit of the corner.
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wow i guess i'm too late says out of stock with no price
Most likely not. Usually when something new is put on the website it still takes a little more time for all the information and inventory status to be put in. Just give it some time. Hiro is doing his best to inform those who take care of the website for everyone so they re easily accessible.

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okay, upon further review, it looks like the FR and RF front are the ones marked with the "plus x degree". So if I use a FR plus 1.0 degree with a FF 1.5 degree then I have a 1/2 degree pin sweep with a wider pin to pin dimension. This takes the place of the old method of using two 1.5s in the front (I'm guessing ?).
In this example would I have a 1/2 degree total, 1/4 on a side or 1/2 degree on each side ?
Thanks.
As far as I know, they are rated in additional degrees. Think of the normal FR and RF blocks as "0". using a +1 deg block will make it the same as a 1 deg toe block. They just don't require any grinding to install, which is pretty neato.

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i think some guys were running that 'heavy'...and the effects would be equivilant to tightening/loosening your ball diff...but Hiro or Korey might want to give you a better explanation - well one better then my lame one
Its not lame :P

I'll just add a little more detail though. Thinner oil basically makes the car rotate harder at lower speeds. I found there is less forward traction though. Thicker oil will make the car feel smoother, but provide more forward traction... and possibly more on power steering if you really goose the throttle hard

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Its not lame :P

I'll just add a little more detail though. Thinner oil basically makes the car rotate harder at lower speeds. I found there is less forward traction though. Thicker oil will make the car feel smoother, but provide more forward traction... and possibly more on power steering if you really goose the throttle hard

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see, I knew you'd be able to improve on my basic explanation thanks!! my brain lately has been too full with real work to have much space in it for adding play stuff I think I need a new job - one that's not so 'brain taxing'
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okay, upon further review, it looks like the FR and RF front are the ones marked with the "plus x degree". So if I use a FR plus 1.0 degree with a FF 1.5 degree then I have a 1/2 degree pin sweep with a wider pin to pin dimension. This takes the place of the old method of using two 1.5s in the front (I'm guessing ?).
In this example would I have a 1/2 degree total, 1/4 on a side or 1/2 degree on each side ?
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As far as I know, they are rated in additional degrees. Think of the normal FR and RF blocks as "0". using a +1 deg block will make it the same as a 1 deg toe block. They just don't require any grinding to install, which is pretty neato.

-Korey

Korey, it sounds like we're saying the same thing. Would you agree ?
If so, then with a 1.5 degree FF block and a +1 degree FR block any guess as to how the .5 degee remaining angle is divided ? 1/2 on a side or 1/4 degree on a side ?
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