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Old 12-25-2010, 01:42 PM   #1621
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You know, as I am building my TCX now, i am finding it annoying that the "standard" kit setup doesn't contain the parts that the pros are using as their "base" setup. So not only is the kit $460ish, but now we will need to cough up more money for additional items no matter how small (for ex- 40w shock oil, 3 hole pistons, springs, and they don't even include cheap allen wrenches)
Yeah, I know what you mean. You look at Hara's cars and they are all decked out with the titanium nitride shock and suspension shafts. Now that I think about it the 417 price is not that bad since it comes with all the hop-ups. I think I spent atleast another $200 on top of the $460.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. You look at Hara's cars and they are all decked out with the titanium nitride shock and suspension shafts. Now that I think about it the 417 price is not that bad since it comes with all the hop-ups. I think I spent atleast another $200 on top of the $460.
The TCX works very well with the standard setup, the hop up is not essential, just more "cool", even the 417 has the hop up available in addition to lots of aftermarket hop up.
Regarding the different springs, no model provides the complete set ( many Tamiya drivers use spring HPI / HB ...)
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:08 AM   #1623
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The TCX works very well with the standard setup, the hop up is not essential, just more "cool", even the 417 has the hop up available in addition to lots of aftermarket hop up.
Regarding the different springs, no model provides the complete set ( many Tamiya drivers use spring HPI / HB ...)

the hop ups ARE essential because the car simply does not look as cool as it possibly could. Im more of a pit racer anyways
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:16 AM   #1624
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the hop ups ARE essential because the car simply does not look as cool as it possibly could. Im more of a pit racer anyways
LOL, mainly bought the essential stuff for mod - aluminum rear diff, titanium susp and shock shafts, teflon shock bodies, titanium camber and steering rods, pom spool parts, and titanium screws for bulkheads and shock attachments. Kinda sucks my local track is mainly going off-road 24x7 so the on-road stuff will sit on the shelf until spring.
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the hop ups ARE essential because the car simply does not look as cool as it possibly could. Im more of a pit racer anyways
+1 Pit racing is where its at
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Old 12-26-2010, 02:35 PM   #1626
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the hop ups ARE essential because the car simply does not look as cool as it possibly could. Im more of a pit racer anyways
Could we get a shot of your ride?
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The TCX works very well with the standard setup, the hop up is not essential, just more "cool", even the 417 has the hop up available in addition to lots of aftermarket hop up.
Regarding the different springs, no model provides the complete set ( many Tamiya drivers use spring HPI / HB ...)
Dunno if I could agree since I haven't put the car on the track yet. But the differences I've noted so far are:

Pro setup vs standard
1) Shock piston - pros seem to use the slightly thinner 1.1mm thickness piston with 3 holes vs 1.2 mm x 2 holes
2) Shock oil - 40 wt vs 30 wt
3) Droop - 8.5 mm vs 6 mm
4) Front shock mount - #3 vs #5 position
5) Rear shock mount - #3 vs #6 position
6) Front toe block - 1.5/2.0 vs 2.5 degrees
7) Front drivetrain purple spacers - 1 mm vs 1.5 mm
8) Front hinge pin spacers - various vs .75mm/2mm
9) Rear hinge pin spacers - various vs .75mm/2mm
10) Rear diff - gear diff vs ball diff
11) Front springs - pink vs gold

So from above, at minimum we'd need to additionally buy 1, 2, 6, 10 and 11... Seems like quite a bit of changes to me!

I'm just saying that for the $$$ spent, I think they should have at least included the damn pink springs, 3 hole pistons, additional purple spacers, 40 wt shock oil and front toe blocks.

I'm surprised that the kit came with double sided sticky tape!
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i know this might not be the best thread...but has anyone tried putting the 20t center pullies on a standard cyclone? if so, anything else needed besides the pulley and center shaft??
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Dunno if I could agree since I haven't put the car on the track yet. But the differences I've noted so far are:

Pro setup vs standard
1) Shock piston - pros seem to use the slightly thinner 1.1mm thickness piston with 3 holes vs 1.2 mm x 2 holes
2) Shock oil - 40 wt vs 30 wt
3) Droop - 8.5 mm vs 6 mm
4) Front shock mount - #3 vs #5 position
5) Rear shock mount - #3 vs #6 position
6) Front toe block - 1.5/2.0 vs 2.5 degrees
7) Front drivetrain purple spacers - 1 mm vs 1.5 mm
8) Front hinge pin spacers - various vs .75mm/2mm
9) Rear hinge pin spacers - various vs .75mm/2mm
10) Rear diff - gear diff vs ball diff
11) Front springs - pink vs gold

So from above, at minimum we'd need to additionally buy 1, 2, 6, 10 and 11... Seems like quite a bit of changes to me!

I'm just saying that for the $$$ spent, I think they should have at least included the damn pink springs, 3 hole pistons, additional purple spacers, 40 wt shock oil and front toe blocks.

I'm surprised that the kit came with double sided sticky tape!
I tried the standard setup and works very well, of course every pilot makes slight adjustments to better adapt it to their driving, regardless of the brand of the model.
The behavior of the shock is very similar between the 3 holes with 40wt and 2 holes with 30wt not need to replace them, depending on the track and driving feel, the same thing about the springs.
The differential gear does not always work well, Hara always uses the standard POM ball and wins...
Exrtra springs, extra oils and differential gear are optional on all models.
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i know this might not be the best thread...but has anyone tried putting the 20t center pullies on a standard cyclone? if so, anything else needed besides the pulley and center shaft??
Belts and make sure the shaft is drilled straight.
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is anybody else having trouble clicking on the "login" link on hotbodiesonline.com? I cant login, click on parts, or do anything
really on the website.
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