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Old 03-17-2010, 05:47 AM   #46
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Can anyone confirm that if its not letting out it's magic smoke, it's not going fast enough?
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This thread was intended for BD. It seems like every time BD starts a thread there are specifically a couple of "T" individuals that hop on and ruin it...

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Old 03-17-2010, 07:32 AM   #48
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I run against and with a BD.
The Tekin V203 is faster.
If someone says it's not, than you didn't use the right setup on your Tekin.

The GM is also faster.
It didn't blow me of the track but it was fast. Good acceleration and good top speed.
The BD came with a lot of power in the infield but it was never impressive on the straights.
As they solve that problem, than it's back in the game again.
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I run against and with a BD.
The Tekin V203 is faster.
If someone says it's not, than you didn't use the right setup on your Tekin.

The GM is also faster.
It didn't blow me of the track but it was fast. Good acceleration and good top speed.
The BD came with a lot of power in the infield but it was never impressive on the straights.
As they solve that problem, than it's back in the game again.
you have to gear the BD the right way to compare to the others.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:21 PM   #50
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I run against and with a BD.
The Tekin V203 is faster.
If someone says it's not, than you didn't use the right setup on your Tekin.

The GM is also faster.
It didn't blow me of the track but it was fast. Good acceleration and good top speed.
The BD came with a lot of power in the infield but it was never impressive on the straights.
As they solve that problem, than it's back in the game again.
You just have to love a good brand pimp!!!
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:30 PM   #51
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you have to gear the BD the right way to compare to the others.
I tried the gearing that would be good. that's what the owner told me. Later I tried a heavier and a lighter gearing but still it came top speed to short.
It went a bit better but it misses a lot of punch in the top.
In the first half of the acceleration it's great. than it gets a bit weaker and in the top it comes to short.
On small tracks the speedo is great.

I mis only 2 things.
1Top speed for the larger tracks.
2 as you want to have a bit less power than you set it in mode 4. This is just like the SPX and I miss an option to tune it so you can ad the power you want.
As you could do it in steps than it's much better and than you can set something between the mode 4 and 5 would be great.
As they make more steps between the mode 4 and 5, than you can ad some more speed and ad what you can handle.

Further the speedo is good except the price and that it isn't for sale jet out here.

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Tekin is super.
I don't say that the advanced isn't because it is a good speedo but I think that with a small changes it would even be better.
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I run against and with a BD.
The Tekin V203 is faster.
If someone says it's not, than you didn't use the right setup on your Tekin.

The GM is also faster.
It didn't blow me of the track but it was fast. Good acceleration and good top speed.
The BD came with a lot of power in the infield but it was never impressive on the straights.
As they solve that problem, than it's back in the game again.

As pointed out you have to love a brand pimp...

We both know the GM 11.1 v2 leaves the Tekin 203 so not point in saying it don't believe me the BD would also.

Unlike the testing done by lets say a little more biased Tekin fan's..

Have handed my Black Diamond v1 software over to someone who is independent someone who normally runs a LRP, so this is a very fair test of the BD vs Tekin.
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you have to gear the BD the right way to compare to the others.

Andy / prodriver / other BD drivers,

I am on the only person at my club who runs the Black Diamond, and this is in 12th scale..

Is there any chance you could give me some gearing advice?

For fun this week we are all running 17.5.

Shall be using profile 5, T3 and Novak or Duo 1 motor.

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Old 03-17-2010, 03:58 PM   #54
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As pointed out you have to love a brand pimp...

We both know the GM 11.1 v2 leaves the Tekin 203 so not point in saying it don't believe me the BD would also.

Unlike the testing done by lets say a little more biased Tekin fan's..

Have handed my Black Diamond v1 software over to someone who is independent someone who normally runs a LRP, so this is a very fair test of the BD vs Tekin.
well it depends on the drivers.
i tested both my self and with both I drove the Mamba drivers and the SXX drivers lost.
I drove with on other driver his car almost the same lap times that i did with my own car. The lap times of me were 14,9 with his car and he drive 15,5
I drove with my own car 14,5 but that day with older tires like his car 14,8.
So it will not say any thing.
It's still the driver. Best test is doing it your self and have a good setup on the Tekin, GM and other speedo's.
than get 1 good driver and let him test.

the driver with the GM V11.1 wasn't that fast so I drove away from him lol.
It had a good speed but I didn't get good info on what the speedo can do.
I'm going to help him with it but it isn't that easy to now how it works.
The Tekin works easier.
But for what I got now for info about the GM it has some good things and some things that I had as idea my self.
As it is a lot faster than the Tekin, than Tekin will come with something new.
Advanced will also come with something that will go better in top speed.
We will see what happens in the end. I think that maybe an other speedo will come that will go faster again and that the other speedo's will update there speedo and than an other speedo is faster.

For me with the 10,5T and the 13,5T the speed's to get the max out the speedo is not possible so for met eh speed of the Tekin is good enough.
By me it's still the driver that can learn enough.

My lap times with the advanced and the Tekin were about the same.
So it doesn't matter in the end.
I watch now to the service and the price and with that Tekin is still nr1 for me.
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well it depends on the drivers.
i tested both my self and with both I drove the Mamba drivers and the SXX drivers lost.
I drove with on other driver his car almost the same lap times that i did with my own car. The lap times of me were 14,9 with his car and he drive 15,5
I drove with my own car 14,5 but that day with older tires like his car 14,8.
So it will not say any thing.
It's still the driver. Best test is doing it your self and have a good setup on the Tekin, GM and other speedo's.
than get 1 good driver and let him test.

I hear you..

My test driver is firstly a better driver than me

He is racing against is someone they race against every week for years.. and very evenly matched.

Lastweek they where within .1-.5 on most laps for 3 heats very close driving good to watch.

This would be more of a real world test..
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I hear you..

My test driver is firstly a better driver than me

He is racing against is someone they race against every week for years.. and very evenly matched.

Lastweek they where within .1-.5 on most laps for 3 heats very close driving good to watch.

This would be more of a real world test..
Let me now how it went.
also the setup on the Tekin.
I have seen some strange setups lately ad my track indoor.
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Chris D, no it was against tekin 203 software and gms running up to 7.4 and also lrp sxxx. Thats the only one I want to have a test against as it would have been good to have seen what was quicker.. I have never driven a 10.5 lie that before the way it delievered the power when I ran 6.5 it didnt feel as powerful.

I can say there was no one I couldnt catch on the straights, may have had gearing right but im just saying Ive never driven a 10.5 with that much power before.

Mr T running 10.5 gearing was 5.91 on medium size indoor track, tracks about the same size as lrp masters if u can get sizes. start on profile 4 and go from there.

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Mr T running 10.5 gearing was 5.91 on medium size indoor track, tracks about the same size as lrp masters if u can get sizes. start on profile 4 and go from there.

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Hey RC..

Thanks for that mate.. sounds like he would not need to change any gearing...

17.5 thinking profile 5 the starting point de gear from there


Miky32 did have a point wish there was a 4.5 profile, so you can use power of 5 with the delivery of 4.

Sure they are working on it as we speak, They spend 3 months in R&D for what I hear so the finished product is bomb proof.

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Chris D, no it was against tekin 203 software and gms running up to 7.4 and also lrp sxxx. Thats the only one I want to have a test against as it would have been good to have seen what was quicker.. I have never driven a 10.5 lie that before the way it delievered the power when I ran 6.5 it didnt feel as powerful.

I can say there was no one I couldnt catch on the straights, may have had gearing right but im just saying Ive never driven a 10.5 with that much power before.

Mr T running 10.5 gearing was 5.91 on medium size indoor track, tracks about the same size as lrp masters if u can get sizes. start on profile 4 and go from there.

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Sounds good mate, will be interesting to see how it all pans out over the next few months with the updatable ones
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Shall give you a full report once I get up, currently 3.46am

The DB geared to 3.9FDR was the smoothest and slowest looking car even seen.. however that is just a sheep in lamb clothing

v1 of BD software is more than a match for Tekin 203. We admit not by much the smoothness power delivery given round our track is an advantage for BD.

How can I put this, My BD was on loan for the evening and I am still waiting for it's return.. Mounty will not give it me back.

The delivery of power with 2s just works..

What a great job AE

Shall post the results for each heat up in the morning.. You shall see there really is not much in it.

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