2LikesAdvanced Electronics Black Diamond ESC
03-16-2010, 09:41 AM
#31
A mortgage and selling off your left nut might just buy one of thse ESC's... 
03-16-2010, 11:51 AM
#32
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The real bottom line is we DON'T NEED HIGH TECH ESC'S to race and have fun with our little toy cars!! IF you want to see a hobby GROW and THRIVE---keep it affordable for the average person. We're much better off selling hundereds of thousands of people products=-- as apposed to hundereds of people products. And affordability is certainly paramount in ANY family hobby. Lipo batteries have come along and REALLY helped make this hobby more affordable. Brushless motors are MUCH more efficient AND easier to keep running well. Rubber tires instead of foam seem a good more affordable move too!!! Let's keep that sentiment up!!! 
I used to see father's and 3 sons ALL racing --- that was the norm. NOW-- you might see the son only racing--with the father helping--because he can't afford to "sponsor" more than one car!!! Now is THAT good for our hobby>? 
We're seeing "spec" class's re-growth here in SoCal-- I hope it can continue and re-grow some interest in our racing. With NASCAR popularity and other forms of racing at an all time high---and our cars LOOKING more like real cars with the sedan class's-- THIS is a great time to try and grow the hobby again.
But--it's going to come down to dollars and SENSE!!! And the manufacturer's and rule makers ARE the custodians of our future. STOP taking into super HIGH TECH---it's just not necessary for good competition.
FWIW
Tim
I used to see father's and 3 sons ALL racing --- that was the norm.
NOW-- you might see the son only racing--with the father helping--because he can't afford to "sponsor" more than one car!!! Now is THAT good for our hobby>? We're seeing "spec" class's re-growth here in SoCal-- I hope it can continue and re-grow some interest in our racing. With NASCAR popularity and other forms of racing at an all time high---and our cars LOOKING more like real cars with the sedan class's-- THIS is a great time to try and grow the hobby again.
But--it's going to come down to dollars and SENSE!!! And the manufacturer's and rule makers ARE the custodians of our future. STOP taking into super HIGH TECH---it's just not necessary for good competition.
FWIW
Tim
03-16-2010, 06:50 PM
#33
Stand on Soap Box….
I understand that some people are getting upset at the price of this ESC..
Keep it affordable, keep the speeds down are all very valued comments, at my local club we are trying to get a STOCK spec event running where everything is stock, motor / esc ever talking to Manufactures to see what they can do in assisting us ..
To be honest it is very hard to get buy in as people want to spend money on whatever they feel will make them win races be it Tekin, LRP, Speed Passion, Team Wave, GM and Black Diamond just to name some of the market leaders.
End of the day us buying into this technology to keep us at the front of the grid is no different from any other sport. Even running can cost a fortune you even tried to buy sport socks
They need a stripy top and and bloody swag bag that is just some sport socks.
When this ESC wins a big event this year it will be a must have.. Ferrari of ESC if you will some people can afford to run one some people just cannot..
Way of the world.
As I said before personally the cost was a lot but being able to upgrade down the line make it worthwhile. Support the smaller companies they normal end up being the best gadget to have, but don't get the big named drivers to use them because of whatever reason.
If this ESC can keep up and in most cases sorry Tekin boys smash them into next year.. Think 12th scale finals with CRC killing every race it entered with this ESC show they are hear to stay whatever the cost, Before someone say's it they where not using 203 software however someone must have tested it somewhere what happened to 201 and 202
I can see that Tekin is affordable and very much at the front of most races round the world currently.. However that was not the case LRP came out with SPX and Tekin was left behind everyone jumps ship, in the same way 203 came along and people left LRP and went to Tekin and Speed Passion faithful waited a long time for there updates to just compete against the tekin 203 software have to say a lot of people round my area left SP because it took to long to get the update to market just to make it compete again the Tekin.
Right now the Tekin is the yard stick no question, when someone comes along quicker can we stop saying how great it is and then comment on how great someone else ESC is for that is now the new yard stick for Tekin new software to be.
Maybe in a few months time the same topic will come up where people are banning the BD again because it is just too quick and nothing can keep up with it noticed this was not the case when 203 was released
Off my Soap Box.....
I understand that some people are getting upset at the price of this ESC..
Keep it affordable, keep the speeds down are all very valued comments, at my local club we are trying to get a STOCK spec event running where everything is stock, motor / esc ever talking to Manufactures to see what they can do in assisting us ..
To be honest it is very hard to get buy in as people want to spend money on whatever they feel will make them win races be it Tekin, LRP, Speed Passion, Team Wave, GM and Black Diamond just to name some of the market leaders.
End of the day us buying into this technology to keep us at the front of the grid is no different from any other sport. Even running can cost a fortune you even tried to buy sport socks
They need a stripy top and and bloody swag bag that is just some sport socks.When this ESC wins a big event this year it will be a must have.. Ferrari of ESC if you will some people can afford to run one some people just cannot..
Way of the world.
As I said before personally the cost was a lot but being able to upgrade down the line make it worthwhile. Support the smaller companies they normal end up being the best gadget to have, but don't get the big named drivers to use them because of whatever reason.
If this ESC can keep up and in most cases sorry Tekin boys smash them into next year.. Think 12th scale finals with CRC killing every race it entered with this ESC show they are hear to stay whatever the cost, Before someone say's it they where not using 203 software however someone must have tested it somewhere what happened to 201 and 202
I can see that Tekin is affordable and very much at the front of most races round the world currently.. However that was not the case LRP came out with SPX and Tekin was left behind everyone jumps ship, in the same way 203 came along and people left LRP and went to Tekin and Speed Passion faithful waited a long time for there updates to just compete against the tekin 203 software have to say a lot of people round my area left SP because it took to long to get the update to market just to make it compete again the Tekin.
Right now the Tekin is the yard stick no question, when someone comes along quicker can we stop saying how great it is and then comment on how great someone else ESC is for that is now the new yard stick for Tekin new software to be.
Maybe in a few months time the same topic will come up where people are banning the BD again because it is just too quick and nothing can keep up with it noticed this was not the case when 203 was released
Off my Soap Box.....
03-16-2010, 07:04 PM
#34
what are you guys doing? This is a thread about BD only. why go off topic?
ONTOPIC AGAIN!
ONTOPIC AGAIN!
03-16-2010, 08:02 PM
#35
Hey Andy,
Everytime there is a thread about BD it goes off topic so let people talk about it, by trying to stop people making this chat the thread dies off look at the last 3..
Seems the world want to know about how good this thing is.....
From personal experience, this ESC ROCKS....
I run this in my 12th scale de-tuned as it is that FAST...
GM 120 v2 in my TC which to be honest is very very impressive also.
Happy with my choice of weapon's
what about you?
03-16-2010, 08:20 PM
#36
Hey Andy,
Everytime there is a thread about BD it goes off topic so let people talk about it, by trying to stop people making this chat the thread dies off look at the last 3..
Seems the world want to know about how good this thing is.....
From personal experience, this ESC ROCKS....
I run this in my 12th scale de-tuned as it is that FAST...
GM 120 v2 in my TC which to be honest is very very impressive also.
Happy with my choice of weapon's
what about you?
Everytime there is a thread about BD it goes off topic so let people talk about it, by trying to stop people making this chat the thread dies off look at the last 3..
Seems the world want to know about how good this thing is.....
From personal experience, this ESC ROCKS....
I run this in my 12th scale de-tuned as it is that FAST...
GM 120 v2 in my TC which to be honest is very very impressive also.
Happy with my choice of weapon's
what about you?
I don't think there is much doubt they are very good 1s ESC's, but what about in a TC in 17.5 which is now the worlds most contested class? So far the only person who says they have run a BD and a Tekin says tekin is faster. I do have a sneaking suspicion that he could be a bit biased though??
I say its time for Mr Tyson to pull his BD out of the 1/12th and run it in 17.5 TC on friday, or give it to me to run if you wan't to test the new GM and get another real comparison out there.
03-16-2010, 10:08 PM
#37
The reputation this speedy had preceding it was huge and I think many are curious to know how good it really is. I think the main problem is that there are so few of them out there, a good comparison is hard to find.
I don't think there is much doubt they are very good 1s ESC's, but what about in a TC in 17.5 which is now the worlds most contested class? So far the only person who says they have run a BD and a Tekin says tekin is faster. I do have a sneaking suspicion that he could be a bit biased though??
I say its time for Mr Tyson to pull his BD out of the 1/12th and run it in 17.5 TC on friday, or give it to me to run if you wan't to test the new GM and get another real comparison out there.
I don't think there is much doubt they are very good 1s ESC's, but what about in a TC in 17.5 which is now the worlds most contested class? So far the only person who says they have run a BD and a Tekin says tekin is faster. I do have a sneaking suspicion that he could be a bit biased though??
I say its time for Mr Tyson to pull his BD out of the 1/12th and run it in 17.5 TC on friday, or give it to me to run if you wan't to test the new GM and get another real comparison out there.
Paul you really want to get hold of my BD
Ok to keep this in fair play, last week the battle was between Bradd and Mounty 17.5 TC 2s racing round our local track.
We found out the Tekin and SS nothing between them in speed / laps times 2 very good drivers which can do consistant lap times.
The real comparrison the people want is Tekin version 203 vs Black Diamond sw version 1.
Bradd and Mounty will take on each other again this week one use Tekin and using my Black Diamond. I shall race my GM just to add even more spice you bringing your Team Wave Paul?
(without a 10.5 installed - play fair )
03-16-2010, 10:55 PM
#38
Paul you really want to get hold of my BD
Ok to keep this in fair play, last week the battle was between Bradd and Mounty 17.5 TC 2s racing round our local track.
We found out the Tekin and SS nothing between them in speed / laps times 2 very good drivers which can do consistant lap times.
The real comparrison the people want is Tekin version 203 vs Black Diamond sw version 1.
Bradd and Mounty will take on each other again this week one use Tekin and using my Black Diamond. I shall race my GM just to add even more spice you bringing your Team Wave Paul?
(without a 10.5 installed - play fair )
Ok to keep this in fair play, last week the battle was between Bradd and Mounty 17.5 TC 2s racing round our local track.
We found out the Tekin and SS nothing between them in speed / laps times 2 very good drivers which can do consistant lap times.
The real comparrison the people want is Tekin version 203 vs Black Diamond sw version 1.
Bradd and Mounty will take on each other again this week one use Tekin and using my Black Diamond. I shall race my GM just to add even more spice you bringing your Team Wave Paul?
(without a 10.5 installed - play fair )
Not many people can afford to buy the number of ESC's you have owned and destroyed in the last few months
Maybe if you bought a box of skill you would be better off. I know I am still looking for that box
Last edited by cannon; 03-17-2010 at 01:05 AM.
03-17-2010, 12:19 AM
#40
+1 . That GM needs work. Let me see ... 17.5 is 2400kv ??
No match for $130 Hobbywing 1965 kv !!!
Fit the Black Diamond Alex !
To be fair , it was ME putting him into the weeds !!
I bet he won't lend me an sxx ss to run him !!!
(flame suit ON !!)
No match for $130 Hobbywing 1965 kv !!!
Fit the Black Diamond Alex !
To be fair , it was ME putting him into the weeds !!
I bet he won't lend me an sxx ss to run him !!!
(flame suit ON !!)
03-17-2010, 01:45 AM
#41
Not feeling the love buddy!!!
Nice edit shame the original message got sent to me by email
I feel with me testing all the lastest range of ESC loving this black diamond and GM would be a genuine outcome..
just for your information the only ESC to blow up would be was one of your's
Play nice else I tell everyone what it was (very loud)
03-17-2010, 01:49 AM
#42
Feel we have gone off topic again, having a pop at Alex day
03-17-2010, 01:54 AM
#43
Greg,
Not feeling the love buddy!!!
Nice edit shame the original message got sent to me by email
I feel with me testing all the lastest range of ESC loving this black diamond and GM would be a genuine outcome..
just for your information the only ESC to blow up on be was one of your's
Play nice else I tell everyone what it was (very loud)
Not feeling the love buddy!!!
Nice edit shame the original message got sent to me by email
I feel with me testing all the lastest range of ESC loving this black diamond and GM would be a genuine outcome..
just for your information the only ESC to blow up on be was one of your's
Play nice else I tell everyone what it was (very loud)
Yes you blew up a Tekin ... congrats
What about the LRP? Or was that a software issue?
The GM is certainly a fast ESC in Mod ... Grainger showed that at TITC
The BD ... like said before haven't seen anything about it in TC so far
As for the editing I just forgot to put in the laughs
03-17-2010, 02:03 AM
#44
It was a joke Alex ....
Yes you blew up a Tekin ... congrats
What about the LRP? Or was that a software issue?
The GM is certainly a fast ESC in Mod ... Grainger showed that at TITC
The BD ... like said before haven't seen anything about it in TC so far
As for the editing I just forgot to put in the laughs
Yes you blew up a Tekin ... congrats
What about the LRP? Or was that a software issue?
The GM is certainly a fast ESC in Mod ... Grainger showed that at TITC
The BD ... like said before haven't seen anything about it in TC so far
As for the editing I just forgot to put in the laughs
I blew up a Tekin yes, but sold it on RC Tech is 6 mins flat too
GM was design as Mod, it is a weapon honest man really is
SS was a problem with the software, having a new version MKIII installed as we speak told them to hold off sending it back until it is release.
Back to the topic in Hand..
BD we shall find out on Friday in the hands of the Stig aka Grant "Steady Hand" Mount..
it will be on top mate.. trust me.. It really is quick.
03-17-2010, 04:54 AM
#45
Tech Addict
Ricky, did you run it against GM 7.2 or 11.1 ?
11.1 leaves Tekin 203 for dust now, so would be interesting to see how it fares against the BD (had one on order with Mike for a while now, had a look at the Euro's but didn't take it on the day as he only had 1)
11.1 leaves Tekin 203 for dust now, so would be interesting to see how it fares against the BD (had one on order with Mike for a while now, had a look at the Euro's but didn't take it on the day as he only had 1)