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Old 04-02-2010, 04:32 PM   #136
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! have a adv1003 can I run that in my sedan 1/10 scale with a 17.5 2cell lipo
Rack,

If you have been following the thread there been a bit of a battle at my local club between a Tekin and BD..

3 - 0 but will not go into that

The BD being tested is a LV version(mine), it works just as good and in my opinion is lighter and just look better in the car

Make sure you put the jumper pin on 5 - 6, to allow the 2s lipo to power the BEC system.

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Old 04-02-2010, 04:40 PM   #137
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thank you I will try my soare in my sedan
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:28 PM   #138
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thank you I will try my soare in my sedan
Cool tell us what you think running in TC.

One more thing I forgot to mention.

Make sure you change the battery cut-off to profile 5 for 2s lipo else it will not work run..

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What is the difference between these Black Diamond speedos?

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CRC-4002
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MR4,

There are just the part numbers used per company..

All refer to the TC spec verison of the BD which has more Fet's than LV however not proven to be much quicker

TC version shall let you run motors down to 3T, and comes with a bigger heatsink and a fan attched than the LV verison done - Can be used for any class be it Mod or Stock level racing.

Put this bad boy in a 17.5, power profile 5 change the brakes to your liking and between 3.9-4.2 FDR.. It will keep you very much at the front of the grid.


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Me_MrTyson,

Thanks for the info Waiting for the BD to arrive any day in the post.

What are the benefits of putting the jumper pin on pins 5 - 6? Or is this a default setting on the ADV-1004?

I will be using it in with an LRP 10.5 fixed timing motor. Profile 5 should be ok?

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I donīt have this ESC but had a look at the manual some time ago.
I think you have to use the jumper at this position otherwise the BEC will not be powered from the Lipo.
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Me_MrTyson,

Thanks for the info Waiting for the BD to arrive any day in the post.

What are the benefits of putting the jumper pin on pins 5 - 6? Or is this a default setting on the ADV-1004?

I will be using it in with an LRP 10.5 fixed timing motor. Profile 5 should be ok?

Thanks
Karl
Hey Karl,

jumper pins 5 - 6 are because the Black Diamond comes with 2 modes..

1. This mode allows you to run 1s lipo using the internal BEC system on the ESC to control the lipo cut off for classes like 12th scale.
Plug an external LiFe battery into 3 - 4 pins and remove the jumper from 5 - 6 this stops the battery from powering your Rx.

2. Have a jumper in 5 - 6 (which is default for TC and LV) the ESC powers by the lipo uses the internal BEC system to power the Rx.

Basiclly should you ever need to run 12th scale removing pins 5 - 6 which shall allow you run legally a 12th scale car by powering the Rx via the BD. better than any regulator etc, just add a LiFe battery on pins 3 - 4 and you are covered.

10.5 using an LRP, is that a X12 or X11?

Start with 5 FDR but should end up with 4.5 - 4.7 BUT REMEMBER this is track dependent.

Always run 1 minute at a time or 5-7 laps and PLEASE temp check

Still depends on the track..

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Hi Alex,

Thanks for the info once again

I will be using the LRP X11 10.5 with fixed timing.

Does the BD like ratios like 5.0? With LRP SPX I use 6.3 for medium sized outdoor asphalt track.

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Hi Alex,

Thanks for the info once again

I will be using the LRP X11 10.5 with fixed timing.

Does the BD like ratios like 5.0? With LRP SPX I use 6.3 for medium sized outdoor asphalt track.

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Hey Karl,

My local track is a 10-11 second lap time...

running a 17.5 the rollout is about 37-39 depending on ESC, however with BD we started using that rollout you could hear the ESC was flogged / spent just after leaving the corner.

So we started to gear down and down we ended up with 49.88 rollout. Without a heatsink on the motor it was coming off at 180f which is not perfect but still not to bad.

The bit which shall get you is the car looks really slow everyone watching will ask if the car is moving..

Black Diamonds's best bit is how it delivery's the power, it's so smooth when putting power to the wheels you then gain so much power out of the corner with the abilty to power on just after the corner starts. It shall give you real confidence to go hard and still always looks slow.

Other ESC have a real surge of power which might be quick but if your car is smooth you hit your braking point and corners perfect everytime. Races are not all about POWER POWER POWER you need to corner too

When testing please test your motor and ESC after 5-7 laps or 1 minute.

We found the motor temp seems to stay consistant such is the software it just works. You have to love the Swiss

Post some feedback with your testing..

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They should help with your setup

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Looking for anyone who has run a trinity duo?

How does the duo motors match up to a novak ballistic?

duo has low down torque but the novak has high top end...
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Looking for anyone who has run a trinity duo?

How does the duo motors match up to a novak ballistic?

duo has low down torque but the novak has high top end...
In our testing the Duo one is simply as good or better in every way. The Duo one has more initial grunt (torque) but continues to wind down a straight. The Duo two is a little softer but picks up in the middle like the novak and just leaves it in its wake. Both motors run cooler than the novak and more importantly both duo's are FLAT, something that novak keeps getting wrong so your heatsink will be much more effective on a duo.
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Looking for anyone who has run a trinity duo?

How does the duo motors match up to a novak ballistic?

duo has low down torque but the novak has high top end...

I run the Duo in the center hole and it seems a lot better than the novak. I like the Duo better than the duo 2 for torque and top end.
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Thought you guys would like to know that the Advanced BD was TQ at the recent US Carpet Nationals for 13.5 Expert 1/12 scale.
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Thought you guys would like to know that the Advanced BD was TQ at the recent US Carpet Nationals for 13.5 Expert 1/12 scale.
Good news

Thanks for the feedback...

Do you have any info on the setup or motor choice?

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And in answer to my own question...

DUO, is the best motor,, Middle timing as has been talked about before

TQ in it's first drive at my local club lot of poke though the race and came off with 160f..

Is it worth turning up the timing a little more??

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And in answer to my own question...

DUO, is the best motor,, Middle timing as has been talked about before

TQ in it's first drive at my local club lot of poke though the race and came off with 160f..

Is it worth turning up the timing a little more??

Alex
We generally find the zero timing works best as the ESC can look after the top end. If you want top end only the Duo 2 can be better although it runs hotter. It does need 1 notch of timing though.
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