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TIRES:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the US:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the Europe:
  • Hot Race ??

Gluing your own donuts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm7z1rz-74s - Special thanks to Edward Pickering!
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The following information came from HERE, with some editing and information added. Thanks Christian!

THIS MAY NEED UPDATING FOR THE NEW BLACK CRC CARPET

Brands:
BSR, CRC, Jaco:
Pro One is no longer selling to the public, but it and the brands above are all mounted by BSR and use the same foam. The nomenclature of the BSR vs Jaco/CRC is a little different in a few instances but is otherwise the same. The BSR foam consists of three families, and can be identifed as synthetics, naturals, and blends.

Synthetics - The old school, light weight, easy to true "dry feeling" tires. These include tires like CRC/Jaco Yellow (BSR White), Black, Gray, etc. These tires offer the highest wear rate and lowest grip. Many racers continue to use these nder high bite conditions.

Naturals - These tires are usually the best alternative for low bite and asphalt. They include Pink, Magenta, Double Pink, Lilac (BSR Team Purple), Purple, and other tires. These tires provide a ton of grip, but tend to get sticky in high bite conditions. This rubber does not wear as easily, and the cars will pick up gunk and fibers from the carpet under most high bite conditions. This is especially bad if the humidity is high.

Blends - These are the tires most people run today. They were initially called "JFT foam" by some, as it was believed that the tires were the same as the JFT tires. We can divide the blends further into two groups: high rubber and low rubber content. The high rubber would be the new rear Orange and Red from the BSR family, and the low rubber would be the Green and Blue varieties. When, asked about the difference, John Foister from BSR Tires said they came from the same "family" of foam, but they offered different grip. According to John, the Green/Blue has more bite than Orange/Red, but from track testing Oranges offer more bite than Green (being equivalent to in hardness) when the grip is high and absolutely no grip when it is lower. The Orange foam has a denser pore structure and the tire is not as prone to chunking. It is also important to note is that BSR Blue rears are not the same as the BSR Blue fronts!

JFT:
JFT stands for Japan Foam Tire. They started the new wave of foam tires we are all using now (Blue/Blu, Green/Greene, Dbl Blue, etc). These tires are a little different than the BSR tire family, but work in very similar conditions. They offers four varieties A (asphalt), C (carpet), S (???), and R (???). This does not mean that those types only work on that surface, but this is what they recommend.

JFT uses the same foam for fronts and rears if the color is the same.

A: Used on asphalt, considered close to the natural rubber variety and are named consistently with other natural tires.
C: Used on carpet, considered a blend.
S: Used on carpet?, tires are ???
R: Used on carpet?, tires are ???

For setup, the JFT foam seem to generate more bite than the BSR, therefore the car tends to be a little more aggressive.

Ulti:
Ulti is another Japanese brand that offers an array of compounds. They have their own way of rating tires, and are difficult to equate to other brands. They have 4 different varieties, each in varying degrees of hardness.

J: High rubber content tire, similar to Pink/ Magenta. Soft would be close to a pink. These offer the most bite and are great for asphalt/carpet front tire. (J hard being very popular)
X: "Balanced" blend, similar to JFT Blue/ Green. Soft is equivalent to Green, medium to Blue in hardness. Great for carpet!
Y: High synthetic blend with lower grip, and is not a very popular variety.
Z: A very expensive "special" foam that is supposed to be magic on asphalt. Only make it in soft shore.
European tires:
There are many great European foam tire brands that use their own types of foam, as well as traditional foams. SOmeone with more knowledge about them will need to fill this in!

Tire Diameter:
If you are racing on carpet, you have to evaluate how much grip your track has. If your track is low to medium grip, you can run bigger tires. If you are on higher bite you have to cut them smaller, there is simply no way around it. Bigger tires are needed for asphalt, especially in the rear. The larger tires provide much needed lateral bite.

Carpet (mm):
Low - Medium Bite
Front: 42.0 - 42.5
Rear: 42.5 - 43.00
Medium - High Bite
Front: 40.5 - 41.0
Rear: 41.5 - 42.0
Big Race
Front: 39.5 - 40.0
Rear: 40.5 - 41.0
Asphalt (mm):
Parking Lot
Front: 43.0 - 44.0
Rear: 44.0 - 45.0
Prepped High Bite
Front: 42.0 - 43.0
Rear: 43.0 - 44.0

Tire Saucing:
Most facilities have moved towards odorless traction additives such as SXT. Some of additives evaporate very quickly and some do not. This seems to be something that is also dependent on tire compound and ambient temperature. For example, saucing a Green compound seems like it never dries, especially when tjhe temperature is lower. We have found that wiping the tires off 15 minutes before we go run allows the sauce to cure, which makes the car come in much quicker with Green rears. Blue compounds on the other hand, do fine when wiped off right before hitting the track.

Saucing half front and full rear is a good initial starting point. If the front of the car is too agressive you can sauce les than half, or for a shorter amount of time.
Tire Fuzzing:
In conditions of increasing grip, foam tires will somewtimes get sticky and pick up fuzz and debris from the track. This is highly dependent on the rubber sedan tire that is being run at your local track and the compound/ type of foam you are running on you car. The softer the sedan tire and the harder/higher rubber content in your foam tire, trouble with fuzzing seems more likely to occur.

There are ways to get around fuzzing under most conditions, and usually involves the selection of the correct foam compound. The more fuzz you get, the softer/lower rubber content you want to run.

Examples:
Problem: Car fuzzes with Lilac/Team Purple fronts and car starts pushing.
Solution: Use a softer front tire and or different family of foam. Replace it with Blue or Double Blue front.

Problem: Car loses rear bite 6 minutes into the run. Blue rear tires look almost clean but have small carpet hairs.
Solution: Use Green rear tires. The softer compound wears instead of getting sticky, minimizing fuzz.

Tire Selection:
Starting out, pick 2 tire compounds for the front and rear. The following should have you covered 99% of the time.

Front - Green and Blue (BSR) or Green and Light Blue (JFT)
Rear - Blue and Double Blue (BSR) or Blue and Dark Blue (JFT)

You may wonder about other compounds out there and if they might be better, trust me, they probably won't be. Even if there are other tires that can be as fast, the synthetic family wears out really fast and the high natural rubber will probably fuzz on you over an 8 minute run. The blends family seems to be the most versatile foam type available today. They last awhile, and sticking to them will make your process of tire selection simpler.
Tire Charts:
BSR/CRC/Jaco



Contact



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JFT (Japan Foam Tire)



Ulti



Enneti (Xceed)



ELECTRONICS:
ESC:
As of now, ROAR is staying 1S (3.7V nominal; 4.2V fully charged) for 1/12. There are many 1S ESC's with a built in BEC so nothing else is required to power the receiver and servo.

If you don't want to lock yourself into a 1S specific ESC, you do have other options! It is possible to use your 2S ESC without a booster or receiver pack, and the ESC simply supplies the lower voltage. If that does not appeal to you, you will need to use an Rx pack or booster. The Rx pack and booster will both supply the receiver with a higher voltage than the 1S pack.

If you decide to use an Rx pack, MAKE SURE TO REMOVE THE RED WIRE FROM THE ESC PLUG THAT GOES INTO THE RECEIVER!!!

If you choose to use a voltage booster, it works exactly how it sounds. Instead of plugging the ESC into the receiver, it plugs into the booster, and the booster plug goes to the ESC, supplying the higher voltage.

1S ESC:
If there are any missing please add them!!

If anyone would like a need for a chart comparing the ESC's specs PM fenton06 and I'll get one made and put in here!
Voltage Boosters:
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Servos:
BODIES:
Black Art (CRC - US Dist):
  • Audi R8C - BA002 - .020 Thick



  • Black Market (Mohawk 12) - BA005 - .020



  • Lola B10 - BA006 - .020 thick
  • Toyota TS030 - BA008 - .020 thick

    Lola - black/red, TS030 - green/pink


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Old 04-24-2002, 11:51 AM   #871
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Lemme know if you want a setup for carpet. I've got one for stock 4 cell that carries tons of corner speed. I run a 12L3 and have been for quite a while. I've got a mod setup too if you want that as well. My stock setup works pretty well at FL too if you decide to run there.
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hey guys,
i am getting into 1/12 scale. do any of you guys know if speedworld raceway in roseville, ca races 1/12 scales? lmk
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They do when there is enough people to run the class. Check out www.rcracing.com for info on Northern CA tracks.
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I actually won't get to race my 1/12 scale again till fall unless I find some place up north to race.
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Where are you going up north? I know of quite a few tracks depending on where you're headed.
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hey guys,
i am getting into 1/12 scale. do any of you guys know if speedworld raceway in roseville, ca races 1/12 scales? lmk
They will have a 6 cell class at the SWC this weekend and next weekend i be up to sake down my 1/12th.
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If I were to go I'd be around Boston but I might be staying now. woo hoo
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Hey everyone how are things going? I'm still up in MN when I thought I would be back home by now. I think I'm going to go over to TCHR and play tonight before heading back to the office on my way home tomorrow. Thanks to AJ, DaveS and Petenis for the support and help. Without the motor loan from AJ I would have qualified off of the pace. Too bad I didn't realize the traction went down for the mains! Congrats to Jari and Mitch. I look forward to playing with them either tonight or in the fall along with the rest of the gang. Although I will still be on the forum regularly it's time for GOLF! Actually I plan on running a few races outdoors to and maybe even the Outdoor Roar Nats up in Colorado but most of the summer will be golf. So how did everyone do? I should be back on line at home by Sat.-DaveA.
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Darnold....how did you do???????

I won for the first time in 1/12(i'm usually 2nd.)the guy that usually beats me had a wheel come off in the main(gotta finish to win...right)...anyway, we had some really goood racing anyway.I found out that i'm driving way too hard into the turns, i brake at the last minute then turn,and its causing me to push in the slow turns.....i'm about 2 tenths off the leaders pace on our best laps......gotta change my driving style a bit....
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I just joined the ranks of 1/12th scale racers. I bought a used CRC Carpet Knife 3.1. I will probably be racing on asphalt this summer and hopefully carpet this next winter, what tires should I try first? The car has purple front and pink rears right now. Also what gearing should I start with for a stock motor, 4 cells. Thanks
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The purples and pinks are ideal for asphault. Gearing depends on your tire size, track size and motor. Your avg. size track (85x35feet) you will prob. want to run between 28-32 with a 100 spur. Tire size will be around 1.95-2.00" for outdoor and smaller for indoor.
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thanks, I knew it depended on tire size, track size, etc but I didn't even know where to start. The tires right now are brand new

the track is pretty big, maybe too big (120 ft by 50ft) but I have always wanted a 12th scale car. We have an "open pan car" class, most peole run the Tamiya F1 and Lamans cars, including myself. The indoor track will be a lot smaller.
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newracer- I suggest you look up a fellow named Steve Rossi. He lives and races out of Denver. Steve is a national level champion driver who knows a tremendous amount about 4 cell stock 1/12 scale motors, batteries, and chasssis.
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I know Steve, I race touring cars with him every once and a while when he comes up to Ft Collins. Actually I don't really race with him, I just get out of the way!
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Back home everyone- How did I do? Well, I qualified 3rd about 6 sec. or so off TQ of Jari. In our last qualifier it was a race just like the 1st qualifier between Jari, Mitch, and Myself and we were about 5sec ahead of Jari's TQ. I lead for the first half of that 4th qualifier, then Jari and I traded the lead almost every lap for the next 1-2 min. and then Jari got and held a 3 sec advantage until the end where we both dumped off of a new TQ pace with 3 laps left to go. In the mains I blew out. I didn't adjust to the lowered grip levels (the temp. dropped 35deg on Sun.!) and although I got the lead in two of the three mains the car was sliding and I wound up catching the corner of a board in both and breaking a wheel so I finished 9th. Something to take account of and remember for the future. Mitch finished second and Peter Burke(?) finished 3rd. As far as I know Jari, Mitch and myself were the only ones to be on 40lap paces the whole weekend and were the only ones to go 39laps (although in the last main Pete may have gone 39 also. There were some fast guys there and it was a really well run race as TCHR usually puts on. Throughout qualifying my car was killer thanks to all of the help and input that Dieter, Paul Lemieux and Dave Chester gave me at Indy, I just needed to recognize the conditions and leave the traction on a lot longer than I was doing during qualifying and then I could have driven better. I still think Jari had Mitch and the rest of us in overall setup so I am in no way saying things would have been different. Jari, Mitch, and Pete deserve huge cudos. Congrats guys you did great and I think we had fun.
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