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TIRES:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the US:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the Europe:
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Gluing your own donuts:
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The following information came from HERE, with some editing and information added. Thanks Christian!

THIS MAY NEED UPDATING FOR THE NEW BLACK CRC CARPET

Brands:
BSR, CRC, Jaco:
Pro One is no longer selling to the public, but it and the brands above are all mounted by BSR and use the same foam. The nomenclature of the BSR vs Jaco/CRC is a little different in a few instances but is otherwise the same. The BSR foam consists of three families, and can be identifed as synthetics, naturals, and blends.

Synthetics - The old school, light weight, easy to true "dry feeling" tires. These include tires like CRC/Jaco Yellow (BSR White), Black, Gray, etc. These tires offer the highest wear rate and lowest grip. Many racers continue to use these nder high bite conditions.

Naturals - These tires are usually the best alternative for low bite and asphalt. They include Pink, Magenta, Double Pink, Lilac (BSR Team Purple), Purple, and other tires. These tires provide a ton of grip, but tend to get sticky in high bite conditions. This rubber does not wear as easily, and the cars will pick up gunk and fibers from the carpet under most high bite conditions. This is especially bad if the humidity is high.

Blends - These are the tires most people run today. They were initially called "JFT foam" by some, as it was believed that the tires were the same as the JFT tires. We can divide the blends further into two groups: high rubber and low rubber content. The high rubber would be the new rear Orange and Red from the BSR family, and the low rubber would be the Green and Blue varieties. When, asked about the difference, John Foister from BSR Tires said they came from the same "family" of foam, but they offered different grip. According to John, the Green/Blue has more bite than Orange/Red, but from track testing Oranges offer more bite than Green (being equivalent to in hardness) when the grip is high and absolutely no grip when it is lower. The Orange foam has a denser pore structure and the tire is not as prone to chunking. It is also important to note is that BSR Blue rears are not the same as the BSR Blue fronts!

JFT:
JFT stands for Japan Foam Tire. They started the new wave of foam tires we are all using now (Blue/Blu, Green/Greene, Dbl Blue, etc). These tires are a little different than the BSR tire family, but work in very similar conditions. They offers four varieties A (asphalt), C (carpet), S (???), and R (???). This does not mean that those types only work on that surface, but this is what they recommend.

JFT uses the same foam for fronts and rears if the color is the same.

A: Used on asphalt, considered close to the natural rubber variety and are named consistently with other natural tires.
C: Used on carpet, considered a blend.
S: Used on carpet?, tires are ???
R: Used on carpet?, tires are ???

For setup, the JFT foam seem to generate more bite than the BSR, therefore the car tends to be a little more aggressive.

Ulti:
Ulti is another Japanese brand that offers an array of compounds. They have their own way of rating tires, and are difficult to equate to other brands. They have 4 different varieties, each in varying degrees of hardness.

J: High rubber content tire, similar to Pink/ Magenta. Soft would be close to a pink. These offer the most bite and are great for asphalt/carpet front tire. (J hard being very popular)
X: "Balanced" blend, similar to JFT Blue/ Green. Soft is equivalent to Green, medium to Blue in hardness. Great for carpet!
Y: High synthetic blend with lower grip, and is not a very popular variety.
Z: A very expensive "special" foam that is supposed to be magic on asphalt. Only make it in soft shore.
European tires:
There are many great European foam tire brands that use their own types of foam, as well as traditional foams. SOmeone with more knowledge about them will need to fill this in!

Tire Diameter:
If you are racing on carpet, you have to evaluate how much grip your track has. If your track is low to medium grip, you can run bigger tires. If you are on higher bite you have to cut them smaller, there is simply no way around it. Bigger tires are needed for asphalt, especially in the rear. The larger tires provide much needed lateral bite.

Carpet (mm):
Low - Medium Bite
Front: 42.0 - 42.5
Rear: 42.5 - 43.00
Medium - High Bite
Front: 40.5 - 41.0
Rear: 41.5 - 42.0
Big Race
Front: 39.5 - 40.0
Rear: 40.5 - 41.0
Asphalt (mm):
Parking Lot
Front: 43.0 - 44.0
Rear: 44.0 - 45.0
Prepped High Bite
Front: 42.0 - 43.0
Rear: 43.0 - 44.0

Tire Saucing:
Most facilities have moved towards odorless traction additives such as SXT. Some of additives evaporate very quickly and some do not. This seems to be something that is also dependent on tire compound and ambient temperature. For example, saucing a Green compound seems like it never dries, especially when tjhe temperature is lower. We have found that wiping the tires off 15 minutes before we go run allows the sauce to cure, which makes the car come in much quicker with Green rears. Blue compounds on the other hand, do fine when wiped off right before hitting the track.

Saucing half front and full rear is a good initial starting point. If the front of the car is too agressive you can sauce les than half, or for a shorter amount of time.
Tire Fuzzing:
In conditions of increasing grip, foam tires will somewtimes get sticky and pick up fuzz and debris from the track. This is highly dependent on the rubber sedan tire that is being run at your local track and the compound/ type of foam you are running on you car. The softer the sedan tire and the harder/higher rubber content in your foam tire, trouble with fuzzing seems more likely to occur.

There are ways to get around fuzzing under most conditions, and usually involves the selection of the correct foam compound. The more fuzz you get, the softer/lower rubber content you want to run.

Examples:
Problem: Car fuzzes with Lilac/Team Purple fronts and car starts pushing.
Solution: Use a softer front tire and or different family of foam. Replace it with Blue or Double Blue front.

Problem: Car loses rear bite 6 minutes into the run. Blue rear tires look almost clean but have small carpet hairs.
Solution: Use Green rear tires. The softer compound wears instead of getting sticky, minimizing fuzz.

Tire Selection:
Starting out, pick 2 tire compounds for the front and rear. The following should have you covered 99% of the time.

Front - Green and Blue (BSR) or Green and Light Blue (JFT)
Rear - Blue and Double Blue (BSR) or Blue and Dark Blue (JFT)

You may wonder about other compounds out there and if they might be better, trust me, they probably won't be. Even if there are other tires that can be as fast, the synthetic family wears out really fast and the high natural rubber will probably fuzz on you over an 8 minute run. The blends family seems to be the most versatile foam type available today. They last awhile, and sticking to them will make your process of tire selection simpler.
Tire Charts:
BSR/CRC/Jaco



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ELECTRONICS:
ESC:
As of now, ROAR is staying 1S (3.7V nominal; 4.2V fully charged) for 1/12. There are many 1S ESC's with a built in BEC so nothing else is required to power the receiver and servo.

If you don't want to lock yourself into a 1S specific ESC, you do have other options! It is possible to use your 2S ESC without a booster or receiver pack, and the ESC simply supplies the lower voltage. If that does not appeal to you, you will need to use an Rx pack or booster. The Rx pack and booster will both supply the receiver with a higher voltage than the 1S pack.

If you decide to use an Rx pack, MAKE SURE TO REMOVE THE RED WIRE FROM THE ESC PLUG THAT GOES INTO THE RECEIVER!!!

If you choose to use a voltage booster, it works exactly how it sounds. Instead of plugging the ESC into the receiver, it plugs into the booster, and the booster plug goes to the ESC, supplying the higher voltage.

1S ESC:
If there are any missing please add them!!

If anyone would like a need for a chart comparing the ESC's specs PM fenton06 and I'll get one made and put in here!
Voltage Boosters:
If there are any missing please add them!
Servos:
BODIES:
Black Art (CRC - US Dist):
  • Audi R8C - BA002 - .020 Thick



  • Black Market (Mohawk 12) - BA005 - .020



  • Lola B10 - BA006 - .020 thick
  • Toyota TS030 - BA008 - .020 thick

    Lola - black/red, TS030 - green/pink


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Old 11-10-2003, 11:24 AM   #4801
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My message was being typed I guess as yours was being posted stormperson...

My only gripe is that if a company adopts the 'Ask someone who owns one' motto, then they should tell customers where to go to ask.

I'd have no idea where to go locally to ask someone who owns a Toyota...Windsor, ON is heavily big-3 driven...and you hardly see any Toyota's on the road...

In other areas they dominate the landscape.

That is also the case with Rev3's here...there is a total of 1 Speed merchant car out of 50 regular racers for our weekly club races...and he has only just recently built it to try something different than the Corally he was running....

If Speedmerchant had posted on their site "Go to RCTech and ask stormperson" under the heading any questions..then fine..otherwise...the way I look at it..I've stumbled across all this information by accident. I don't view that as customer service...but that's just my opinion.
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There are defently things that could be better, and I will defently mention that to Bruce. However, I am not speaking for anyone, just stating my own opinions.

So PLEASE do not take me to be the offical Speedmerchant representitive.
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Old 11-10-2003, 11:36 AM   #4803
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Hello,
My name is John Firsching. I've worked for CRC for a little over 4 years now. I haven't been around long enough to know about the story of Frank and Bruce first hand, so i'm not going to comment. I've obviously never owned a Speedmerchant car, so I can't comment on their customer service.

What I do know is, when people ask my opinion on "why should I buy a CRC car?", I tell them all them positives of the car and what it can do for them without bashing competitors cars. I can appreciate everyone's faithfulness to their cars/companys/sponsors, etc., but find some of the responses on this thread pretty unprofessional and uncalled for.

State your facts, show people what you have to offer, and help the best you can without heresay or bashing, and everyone will be happier in the long run.

I think the closest example of this is Ian. It is true that even after he switched cars, I have never seen him bad mouth any of our stuff or anybody elses for that matter, and he does still help driver's of other mfg's cars. He just switched over his best efforts of praise to his current ride as he should.

Again, State your facts, show people what you have to offer, and help the best you can without heresay or bashing. People will actually be even more impressed that your willing to help them even though they drive a different car than they would be by you putting down their ride.

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Old 11-10-2003, 11:40 AM   #4804
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stomr some peoples shorts get into nots quicker than others
personally i know you dont bash other peoples cars i run the quad 12 and noticed that you praised certain atributes of the car to be excellant, but i guess if people here think that the posting people put on here is bashing then so be it thier own personal dilema. your giving these guys usefull info. and its your personal opionion what you post on here and if they cant handle it then get out of the kitchen.
i dont like the carpet knife or rev-3 you got a problem with that because if you do i dont care
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Sorry Storm...wasn't trying to nominate you as the official rep...was just illustrating a point.

You're a strong believer in the Rev3...you and I talked on this thread about my choice of the CK...

Sorry if I sounded like I was ranting a bit earlier...Most are quite nice about the levels of service for their respective brands.

You made a point earlier that SM isn't lacking in quality control, as they had parts omitted, not missed. Unless someone knows what is omitted...how will they know that it was an omission..and not just missed? (turnbuckles, etc)

I've had minor quality issues with my CK..as have a lot of people that I know...most..if not all complaints were of the 'parts missing' variety...

I wasn't worried about those issues with CK because I was able to contact them and discuss how to FIX the issue. With SM I wasn't able to even aske the question because all I could do is leave voice mail and never get a response.

A problem isn't a problem, unless a solution is unavailable. Unfortunately, due to a lack of correspondence, I wasn't able to build any confidence in teh customer support at SM. I'm glad to hear that you can contact Bruce, and seem to have his attention. Maybe I will too someday...or maybe he'll have additional staff, a forum to respond to general questions, or possibly even updated information so we know what we can or can't expect with the kits.

Until that occurs though, I'll be shopping elsewhere. It's a shame too, since I really DO think that the Rev3 felt sweet. The rear pod on the one at the track felt so free...My CK is free too...but the Rev3 just felt.....natural
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I just double-checked mine too Impact...

Mine are aligned in horizontal plane and appear to be aligned vertically as well.

I do like the idea of the Old School front end...but if it was perfect...why in the world would Speed merchant be launching the V-Force in the Summer of 2003????

Oh! Wait a minute...the date must have been moved...they'll probably update that info on their site when they post a picture of a non-fibreglass Rev3...or they post information about addtional components required...

I'm sure that they focus the BULK of their energy on their car design..which is as it should be....however...these minor oversights also make me wonder what else has been neglected?

I look at 1:1 autos the same way...you're buying into a complete package, product, design, service, information...Any major defficiencies in any of those areas...for me, anyway...is a red-flag..and it makes me question all of the areas in greater detail.
Actually the Rev. 3 on the Website is Graphite, it's just not the now common "woven finish" graphite. A long time ago most of the carbon fiber cars looked just like that. No pretty weave pattern laminated on top of the plate.

As Stormperson stated Bruce relies on US, his "Drivas" to help with the car, which we're more than willing to do. This is no bash on any other manufacturer or their representatives, because I appreciate any and all support they give, but I'm way more likely to trust the word of a CONSUMER than I am a Company Representative. I mean Yugo company reps still pushed Yugos, if you catch my meaning.

I've said it once and I'll probably say it a Million more times. Either way you go you get a great car. You have no T-bar, and no battery tape. I just prefer a Rev.3 for the reasons I've stated.
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Makes sense CMW...

Now that I think of it...I had a TRC/Composite Craft Predator Lynx II Elite years ago...(I'm glad names are shorter now)

It was graphite, but didnt' show the woven pattern...

I'm happy to talk to users about how they like their cars. It's how I ened up with the CK...there just weren't any local Rev3 drivers to ask!
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speedxl - please don't get the wrong impression from my post, opinions are fine. Before I bought my first CK, I ran a Corally and did not like it at all. I couldn't make it handle to save my life. The difference is, I didn't go on public forums and state problems that don't exist with the car. It's obviously a good car as it has won many races as well. Just wasn't the one for me.
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Wow, who know the written word could cause such a commotion... without being able to see the hand gestures and facial expressions people can become very defensive in such a short span of time

Out of all of the recent posts the only one that has me curious is the one about a t-bar car being easier to drive in mod vs. a link car... I think that I'm now going to have to buy the Quad12 (no tape batteries ) and see which one I can drive faster and be more consistent with. Had thought of doing that with the CRC CK and the Rev.3...

Guys just remember... this is America, and everyone is entitled to their opinion and can say whatever they want, no matter how badly you disagree with it... what a great country, wouldn't want to live anywhere else....

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You tha Man Whopper!! I guess I'll see ya in a couple weeks. If I can break free from the Mic up there, you can buy me a beer! LOL!!!

Oh by the way, I bash All T-bar cars ALL the time. But that's not brand loyalty, it's a religious thing.
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Well just so you know I was at the track saturday and won stock out of 9 with my CK and TQed mod and finished 3rd out of 6 with my 6pack. It was my CK and 2 6packs in stock and a L3 CRC conversion and 2 6pack in mod. T-plates were the only cars in mod, no links cars.

Results here
http://www.nashrcracer.com/results/M...11-08-2003.htm

On another note there was a brand new in the box assembled but never ran Rev3 for sale at the track the guy was getting a t-plate (probably yok) car so he could run mod with us.

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Well just so you know I was at the track saturday and won stock out of 9 with my CK and TQed mod and finished 3rd out of 6 with my 6pack. It was my CK and 2 6packs in stock and a L3 CRC conversion and 2 6pack in mod. T-plates were the only cars in mod, no links cars.

Results here
http://www.nashrcracer.com/results/M...11-08-2003.htm

On another note there was a brand new in the box assembled but never ran Rev3 for sale at the track the guy was getting a t-plate (probably yok) car so he could run mod with us.
That's nice, see if you can get some guy who only runs stock with a T-bar car to trade the guy for the Rev.3 and then they'll both be happy. Of course if the track's high bite an enterprising individual could make the Rev. 3 work in Mod. I've seen it done.
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Speaking of Yokomo, What do you guys think of the Yokomo YRX-12. I just bought one from a guy at our local track. It was in perfect condidtion. I had some purple foams up front, and some greys in the back. It has some damper tubes, and has all the original SSG goodies. If anyone has any info on how to set this car up for super high traction carpet that would be great. I'm totally new to 1/12 so bear with me for a while . Thanks.

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Fike-CRC has a new t-bar car coming soon. No tape needed. I hope I am not letting the cat out of the bag too early. Perhaps JohnnyWhopper can give us some more details. It is cool looking.
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Speaking of Yokomo, What do you guys think of the Yokomo YRX-12. I just bought one from a guy at our local track. It was in perfect condidtion. I had some purple foams up front, and some greys in the back. It has some damper tubes, and has all the original SSG goodies. If anyone has any info on how to set this car up for super high traction carpet that would be great. I'm totally new to 1/12 so bear with me for a while . Thanks.

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My big suggestion would be to obtain a CRC 6-pack Chassis, or a PRC Quad 12 chassis, as the stock Yokomo unit has FAR too much flex for extremely high bite carpet.
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