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Old 01-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #37456
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hey guys i just got back into 1/12th scale and i got a crc gen xl, i'm looking for a setup station. what station works with the huge front axles on this car? what are you guys using?
i know alot of you guys say don't bother with one, but i always liked using one in the past.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:27 AM   #37457
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I just picked up a Gen XL from a buddy of mine and want to know what is the best body to go with? I run in 13.5 blinky class on indoor crc carpet.
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I just picked up a Gen XL from a buddy of mine and want to know what is the best body to go with? I run in 13.5 blinky class on indoor crc carpet.
Im using the crc pacemaker.
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:31 AM   #37459
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CRC import 4 bodies from Blackart
Bomb'R=less aggressive


R8c=more aggressive


R10 LMP=Balanced


And the latest iteration R12 Mowhawk. which is apparently an improvement on the Bomb'R


These are of course all modeled after the all mighty Audi Prototype Endurance cars.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:39 AM   #37460
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Continuing on the front tire discussion. Ive noticed there are a few differents combinations that are popular for each different class of 12th. Obviously there are plenty of setups that differ from the below... But this is what I have been noticing the fast guys using at bigger races. If I am missing something, or have something wrong, please point it out.

Blinky 17.5, I see people using:
1) Black/Yellow
2) Black/Orange(Grey-Low)
3) Magenta/Yellow
4) Magenta/Pink

13.5 Open:
1) Magenta/Yellow
2) Magenta/Pink
3) Magenta/Magenta

Mod:
1) Magenta/Pink
2) Magenta/Magenta


What is the reason for this hierarchy? More to the point, what is the reason for the Black/Yellow or Black/Orange combo being so popular in Stock/17.5, but not really used in the other classes?

Im guessing that as the motors get faster, the potential for higher corner speed increases... thus you want a car with more steering to maintain that corner speed? Is this correct?

If that is the case, are there situations where you would want to use a Magenta/Magenta combo in, say, 17.5 Blinky?
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:31 AM   #37461
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CRC import 4 bodies from Blackart
Bomb'R=less aggressive

R8c=more aggressive

R10 LMP=Balanced

And the latest iteration R12 Mowhawk. which is apparently an improvement on the Bomb'R
I disagree on your body handling information.

R8C is less aggressive, car is easier to drive overall.

Bomb'R has more down force all around and definitely gives you more steering. This body is similar to the Protoform AMR12. Both these bodies are used in Mod racing which would lead one to believe they have more grip. I gained .1 to .2 seconds on average in 17.5NT by switching to the Bomb'R.

Not sure on the other 2 I've never ran them.
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Are either of the Protoform bodies good?
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Continuing on the front tire discussion. Ive noticed there are a few differents combinations that are popular for each different class of 12th. Obviously there are plenty of setups that differ from the below... But this is what I have been noticing the fast guys using at bigger races. If I am missing something, or have something wrong, please point it out.

Blinky 17.5, I see people using:
1) Black/Yellow
2) Black/Orange(Grey-Low)
3) Magenta/Yellow
4) Magenta/Pink

13.5 Open:
1) Magenta/Yellow
2) Magenta/Pink
3) Magenta/Magenta

Mod:
1) Magenta/Pink
2) Magenta/Magenta


What is the reason for this hierarchy? More to the point, what is the reason for the Black/Yellow or Black/Orange combo being so popular in Stock/17.5, but not really used in the other classes?

Im guessing that as the motors get faster, the potential for higher corner speed increases... thus you want a car with more steering to maintain that corner speed? Is this correct?

If that is the case, are there situations where you would want to use a Magenta/Magenta combo in, say, 17.5 Blinky?
Repost so it doesn't get lost on the bottom of the last page...
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:15 AM   #37464
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I disagree on your body handling information.

R8C is less aggressive, car is easier to drive overall.

Bomb'R has more down force all around and definitely gives you more steering. This body is similar to the Protoform AMR12. Both these bodies are used in Mod racing which would lead one to believe they have more grip. I gained .1 to .2 seconds on average in 17.5NT by switching to the Bomb'R.

Not sure on the other 2 I've never ran them.
This is my first 1/12 scale so it sounds like the R8C would be best for me. I race WGT now and do pretty good so I decided to give 12th scale a shot.
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Continuing on the front tire discussion. Ive noticed there are a few differents combinations that are popular for each different class of 12th. Obviously there are plenty of setups that differ from the below... But this is what I have been noticing the fast guys using at bigger races. If I am missing something, or have something wrong, please point it out.

Blinky 17.5, I see people using:
1) Black/Yellow
2) Black/Orange(Grey-Low)
3) Magenta/Yellow
4) Magenta/Pink

13.5 Open:
1) Magenta/Yellow
2) Magenta/Pink
3) Magenta/Magenta

Mod:
1) Magenta/Pink
2) Magenta/Magenta


What is the reason for this hierarchy? More to the point, what is the reason for the Black/Yellow or Black/Orange combo being so popular in Stock/17.5, but not really used in the other classes?

Im guessing that as the motors get faster, the potential for higher corner speed increases... thus you want a car with more steering to maintain that corner speed? Is this correct?

If that is the case, are there situations where you would want to use a Magenta/Magenta combo in, say, 17.5 Blinky?
I haven't done much testing in 17,5 in a long time but most guys run the yellow/black combo because it has less grip and makes the car run a little more free. Less steering and less rear grip. If the track has low grip the pink/magenta family could certainly be faster, I have even seen it at big races but it is less common.

My personal experience with 13.5 and faster is the yellow family just does not have the traction the pink/magenta family of rubber does. The yellow rears have less forward bite than pink or magenta and usually chunk and wear out much easier/faster. I have seen them used and work but only in certain circumstances.

Hope that helps a little.
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Hello 1/12th scale racers.
I'm looking at getting into 1/12 scale 17.5 boosted. Two members at my club have offered to sell me their used 1/12 rollers.
1st
Associated 12R5.1
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both in great shape.
Which one would you buy if you were just getting into 1/12 scale & Why?
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I gotta try one of those R12 Mohawks, just on the basis of looking badass.
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Hello 1/12th scale racers.
I'm looking at getting into 1/12 scale 17.5 boosted. Two members at my club have offered to sell me their used 1/12 rollers.
1st
Associated 12R5.1
2nd
Serpent S120L
both in great shape.
Which one would you buy if you were just getting into 1/12 scale & Why?
I would look at condition of the cars first. Second, I would look at how much help is there for a particular car. If everyone else is running AE you would probably do better quicker with it. As a newbie, I would not go buy something that no one else is running and can't help you with. Third look for parts support at your local track. Something is going to break and you are not going to have it. I just think it is easier for a person getting into a class for the first time to go with the flow. Then, after you have mastered it, you can go your on direction.
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Hello 1/12th scale racers.
I'm looking at getting into 1/12 scale 17.5 boosted. Two members at my club have offered to sell me their used 1/12 rollers.
1st
Associated 12R5.1
2nd
Serpent S120L
both in great shape.
Which one would you buy if you were just getting into 1/12 scale & Why?
All of the cars are about equal, just get the one that has better part support at the track (probably not the serpent)
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I haven't done much testing in 17,5 in a long time but most guys run the yellow/black combo because it has less grip and makes the car run a little more free. Less steering and less rear grip. If the track has low grip the pink/magenta family could certainly be faster, I have even seen it at big races but it is less common.

My personal experience with 13.5 and faster is the yellow family just does not have the traction the pink/magenta family of rubber does. The yellow rears have less forward bite than pink or magenta and usually chunk and wear out much easier/faster. I have seem them used and work but only in certain circumstances.

Hope that helps a little.
Thanks for the input... Very helpful.
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