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TIRES:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the US:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the Europe:
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Gluing your own donuts:
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Truing tires:
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The following information came from HERE, with some editing and information added. Thanks Christian!

THIS MAY NEED UPDATING FOR THE NEW BLACK CRC CARPET

Brands:
BSR, CRC, Jaco:
Pro One is no longer selling to the public, but it and the brands above are all mounted by BSR and use the same foam. The nomenclature of the BSR vs Jaco/CRC is a little different in a few instances but is otherwise the same. The BSR foam consists of three families, and can be identifed as synthetics, naturals, and blends.

Synthetics - The old school, light weight, easy to true "dry feeling" tires. These include tires like CRC/Jaco Yellow (BSR White), Black, Gray, etc. These tires offer the highest wear rate and lowest grip. Many racers continue to use these nder high bite conditions.

Naturals - These tires are usually the best alternative for low bite and asphalt. They include Pink, Magenta, Double Pink, Lilac (BSR Team Purple), Purple, and other tires. These tires provide a ton of grip, but tend to get sticky in high bite conditions. This rubber does not wear as easily, and the cars will pick up gunk and fibers from the carpet under most high bite conditions. This is especially bad if the humidity is high.

Blends - These are the tires most people run today. They were initially called "JFT foam" by some, as it was believed that the tires were the same as the JFT tires. We can divide the blends further into two groups: high rubber and low rubber content. The high rubber would be the new rear Orange and Red from the BSR family, and the low rubber would be the Green and Blue varieties. When, asked about the difference, John Foister from BSR Tires said they came from the same "family" of foam, but they offered different grip. According to John, the Green/Blue has more bite than Orange/Red, but from track testing Oranges offer more bite than Green (being equivalent to in hardness) when the grip is high and absolutely no grip when it is lower. The Orange foam has a denser pore structure and the tire is not as prone to chunking. It is also important to note is that BSR Blue rears are not the same as the BSR Blue fronts!

JFT:
JFT stands for Japan Foam Tire. They started the new wave of foam tires we are all using now (Blue/Blu, Green/Greene, Dbl Blue, etc). These tires are a little different than the BSR tire family, but work in very similar conditions. They offers four varieties A (asphalt), C (carpet), S (???), and R (???). This does not mean that those types only work on that surface, but this is what they recommend.

JFT uses the same foam for fronts and rears if the color is the same.

A: Used on asphalt, considered close to the natural rubber variety and are named consistently with other natural tires.
C: Used on carpet, considered a blend.
S: Used on carpet?, tires are ???
R: Used on carpet?, tires are ???

For setup, the JFT foam seem to generate more bite than the BSR, therefore the car tends to be a little more aggressive.

Ulti:
Ulti is another Japanese brand that offers an array of compounds. They have their own way of rating tires, and are difficult to equate to other brands. They have 4 different varieties, each in varying degrees of hardness.

J: High rubber content tire, similar to Pink/ Magenta. Soft would be close to a pink. These offer the most bite and are great for asphalt/carpet front tire. (J hard being very popular)
X: "Balanced" blend, similar to JFT Blue/ Green. Soft is equivalent to Green, medium to Blue in hardness. Great for carpet!
Y: High synthetic blend with lower grip, and is not a very popular variety.
Z: A very expensive "special" foam that is supposed to be magic on asphalt. Only make it in soft shore.
European tires:
There are many great European foam tire brands that use their own types of foam, as well as traditional foams. SOmeone with more knowledge about them will need to fill this in!

Tire Diameter:
If you are racing on carpet, you have to evaluate how much grip your track has. If your track is low to medium grip, you can run bigger tires. If you are on higher bite you have to cut them smaller, there is simply no way around it. Bigger tires are needed for asphalt, especially in the rear. The larger tires provide much needed lateral bite.

Carpet (mm):
Low - Medium Bite
Front: 42.0 - 42.5
Rear: 42.5 - 43.00
Medium - High Bite
Front: 40.5 - 41.0
Rear: 41.5 - 42.0
Big Race
Front: 39.5 - 40.0
Rear: 40.5 - 41.0
Asphalt (mm):
Parking Lot
Front: 43.0 - 44.0
Rear: 44.0 - 45.0
Prepped High Bite
Front: 42.0 - 43.0
Rear: 43.0 - 44.0

Tire Saucing:
Most facilities have moved towards odorless traction additives such as SXT. Some of additives evaporate very quickly and some do not. This seems to be something that is also dependent on tire compound and ambient temperature. For example, saucing a Green compound seems like it never dries, especially when tjhe temperature is lower. We have found that wiping the tires off 15 minutes before we go run allows the sauce to cure, which makes the car come in much quicker with Green rears. Blue compounds on the other hand, do fine when wiped off right before hitting the track.

Saucing half front and full rear is a good initial starting point. If the front of the car is too agressive you can sauce les than half, or for a shorter amount of time.
Tire Fuzzing:
In conditions of increasing grip, foam tires will somewtimes get sticky and pick up fuzz and debris from the track. This is highly dependent on the rubber sedan tire that is being run at your local track and the compound/ type of foam you are running on you car. The softer the sedan tire and the harder/higher rubber content in your foam tire, trouble with fuzzing seems more likely to occur.

There are ways to get around fuzzing under most conditions, and usually involves the selection of the correct foam compound. The more fuzz you get, the softer/lower rubber content you want to run.

Examples:
Problem: Car fuzzes with Lilac/Team Purple fronts and car starts pushing.
Solution: Use a softer front tire and or different family of foam. Replace it with Blue or Double Blue front.

Problem: Car loses rear bite 6 minutes into the run. Blue rear tires look almost clean but have small carpet hairs.
Solution: Use Green rear tires. The softer compound wears instead of getting sticky, minimizing fuzz.

Tire Selection:
Starting out, pick 2 tire compounds for the front and rear. The following should have you covered 99% of the time.

Front - Green and Blue (BSR) or Green and Light Blue (JFT)
Rear - Blue and Double Blue (BSR) or Blue and Dark Blue (JFT)

You may wonder about other compounds out there and if they might be better, trust me, they probably won't be. Even if there are other tires that can be as fast, the synthetic family wears out really fast and the high natural rubber will probably fuzz on you over an 8 minute run. The blends family seems to be the most versatile foam type available today. They last awhile, and sticking to them will make your process of tire selection simpler.
Tire Charts:
BSR/CRC/Jaco



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JFT (Japan Foam Tire)



Ulti



Enneti (Xceed)



ELECTRONICS:
ESC:
As of now, ROAR is staying 1S (3.7V nominal; 4.2V fully charged) for 1/12. There are many 1S ESC's with a built in BEC so nothing else is required to power the receiver and servo.

If you don't want to lock yourself into a 1S specific ESC, you do have other options! It is possible to use your 2S ESC without a booster or receiver pack, and the ESC simply supplies the lower voltage. If that does not appeal to you, you will need to use an Rx pack or booster. The Rx pack and booster will both supply the receiver with a higher voltage than the 1S pack.

If you decide to use an Rx pack, MAKE SURE TO REMOVE THE RED WIRE FROM THE ESC PLUG THAT GOES INTO THE RECEIVER!!!

If you choose to use a voltage booster, it works exactly how it sounds. Instead of plugging the ESC into the receiver, it plugs into the booster, and the booster plug goes to the ESC, supplying the higher voltage.

1S ESC:
If there are any missing please add them!!

If anyone would like a need for a chart comparing the ESC's specs PM fenton06 and I'll get one made and put in here!
Voltage Boosters:
If there are any missing please add them!
Servos:
BODIES:
Black Art (CRC - US Dist):
  • Audi R8C - BA002 - .020 Thick



  • Black Market (Mohawk 12) - BA005 - .020



  • Lola B10 - BA006 - .020 thick
  • Toyota TS030 - BA008 - .020 thick

    Lola - black/red, TS030 - green/pink


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Old 07-13-2009, 03:11 AM   #31681
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I disagee that the GTB is at all slower with a 1 cell. Maybe if you are talking in Sedans - then yes the GTB Speedo is well outclassed. But in 1/12th I strongly disagree that the GTB is anything other than still top notch. I race against LRP, and speed passion drivers, and have not seen any speed advantage with those speedo's. If anything the simplcity and efficiency of the GTB 4 cell Spread Spectrum Speedo is an advantage as there isnt a billion settings to muck with. Its like the Ronco ESC - Set it and Forget it And is light and low profile.

Just my .02$. You can score the GTB for under $100 on the Novak site still which makes it an incredible value since in these cars with 1S its every bit as good if not better than the expensive LRP and SP speedo's that require boosters to run.
Not trying to bag on the GTB.
I am lucky enough to race with a few nationally raked drivers and have seen how it stacks up to the comp. Some of them have played with it along with me and it just lacks some rip that the other speedos have. Love the size, weight, price, either way awsome speedo but if you competitive at the nats level it just wont do. Locally it works just fine.

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Locally it works just fine.
Exactly. I could win at the local track with any speedo on the market today but go to a big race and I would get dusted without one of the quicker set-ups.
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help! anybody know where i can find brush motor comm drops or any other type of lubes to help rpm,s increase. has anybody made there own formulas out of household items ? thks 4 your support
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Not trying to bag on the GTB.
I am lucky enough to race with a few nationally raked drivers and have seen how it stacks up to the comp. Some of them have played with it along with me and it just lacks some rip that the other speedos have. Love the size, weight, price, either way awsome speedo but if you competitive at the nats level it just wont do. Locally it works just fine.

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True enough! but then again those nat level guys have lots of black magic being used in the motors, batteries, ESC's, etc... but I get what you are saying.
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dont know if you guyz seen my post in gen disc, but am looking for some used parts for this car,picked it up as a roller and its needing some stuff,also working with another gentleman but can always use more help/info....
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help! anybody know where i can find brush motor comm drops or any other type of lubes to help rpm,s increase. has anybody made there own formulas out of household items ? thks 4 your support
people probably have several bottles laying in their pitbox gathering dust.

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True enough! but then again those nat level guys have lots of black magic being used in the motors, batteries, ESC's, etc... but I get what you are saying.
Its pretty amazing what those guys will try. LOL.

But honestly, a novak 13.5 with an LRP has always giving me enough to keep up.....in the hp department anyway. Driving is always the other issue I have.

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I can't wait till my brain turns back on and I get some control back.

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If you have driving issues, i'm doomed.

I can't wait till my brain turns back on and I get some control back.

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If I DONT have driving issues.

Dont worry, next race or two you will be back in full swing. Then Im gona have to, some how, turn it up again.

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i just purchased a speedpassion 2.0 and I will be running 1cell lipo in 12r5with novak 13.5...track is 80x30 carpet..can anyone give me an idea of where to begin...i have no idea...
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I'd start with a 76 rollout with the timing set at its highest in the esc. I like punch profile 6 with 13.5 1 cell in that esc.
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i just purchased a speedpassion 2.0 and I will be running 1cell lipo in 12r5with novak 13.5...track is 80x30 carpet..can anyone give me an idea of where to begin...i have no idea...
75 or 73 spur with 42,43,44 and maybe a 45 pinion. 75/44 or 73/43 is the best place to start. Timming stock. Tires should be 1.8 or lower. New uncut tires should be 1.9. Then drop a tooth if thats what your running.

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Just signed into this forum after a while away..you would have thought I was trying to sign into NSA headquarters..DAMN it waw a B$%ch!! RC cars guys... lets not take ourselves too seriously. What a pain in the A@*!
Anyway I have just got a very new rc12l4 with a different chassis for the cell layout (they point toward the front of the car) and a rc12 r5. both have GTB's with 17.5.
I will be running on a super smooth asphalt parking lot..just done like a month a go. the layout changes as the guys see fit but one thing is for sure the longest straight is like 80 ft. I need help with gearing and tires...i was thinking about running the CRC pro cuts but have no idea about compound for outdoors(like i said smooth asphalt). as well gearing...both have a 100t spur what pinion with the 17.5? as well do they make "capped" tires for 1/12?
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