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Pre-mounted tires readily available in the US:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the Europe:
  • Hot Race ??

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The following information came from HERE, with some editing and information added. Thanks Christian!


BSR, CRC, Jaco:
Pro One is no longer selling to the public, but it and the brands above are all mounted by BSR and use the same foam. The nomenclature of the BSR vs Jaco/CRC is a little different in a few instances but is otherwise the same. The BSR foam consists of three families, and can be identifed as synthetics, naturals, and blends.

Synthetics - The old school, light weight, easy to true "dry feeling" tires. These include tires like CRC/Jaco Yellow (BSR White), Black, Gray, etc. These tires offer the highest wear rate and lowest grip. Many racers continue to use these nder high bite conditions.

Naturals - These tires are usually the best alternative for low bite and asphalt. They include Pink, Magenta, Double Pink, Lilac (BSR Team Purple), Purple, and other tires. These tires provide a ton of grip, but tend to get sticky in high bite conditions. This rubber does not wear as easily, and the cars will pick up gunk and fibers from the carpet under most high bite conditions. This is especially bad if the humidity is high.

Blends - These are the tires most people run today. They were initially called "JFT foam" by some, as it was believed that the tires were the same as the JFT tires. We can divide the blends further into two groups: high rubber and low rubber content. The high rubber would be the new rear Orange and Red from the BSR family, and the low rubber would be the Green and Blue varieties. When, asked about the difference, John Foister from BSR Tires said they came from the same "family" of foam, but they offered different grip. According to John, the Green/Blue has more bite than Orange/Red, but from track testing Oranges offer more bite than Green (being equivalent to in hardness) when the grip is high and absolutely no grip when it is lower. The Orange foam has a denser pore structure and the tire is not as prone to chunking. It is also important to note is that BSR Blue rears are not the same as the BSR Blue fronts!

JFT stands for Japan Foam Tire. They started the new wave of foam tires we are all using now (Blue/Blu, Green/Greene, Dbl Blue, etc). These tires are a little different than the BSR tire family, but work in very similar conditions. They offers four varieties A (asphalt), C (carpet), S (???), and R (???). This does not mean that those types only work on that surface, but this is what they recommend.

JFT uses the same foam for fronts and rears if the color is the same.

A: Used on asphalt, considered close to the natural rubber variety and are named consistently with other natural tires.
C: Used on carpet, considered a blend.
S: Used on carpet?, tires are ???
R: Used on carpet?, tires are ???

For setup, the JFT foam seem to generate more bite than the BSR, therefore the car tends to be a little more aggressive.

Ulti is another Japanese brand that offers an array of compounds. They have their own way of rating tires, and are difficult to equate to other brands. They have 4 different varieties, each in varying degrees of hardness.

J: High rubber content tire, similar to Pink/ Magenta. Soft would be close to a pink. These offer the most bite and are great for asphalt/carpet front tire. (J hard being very popular)
X: "Balanced" blend, similar to JFT Blue/ Green. Soft is equivalent to Green, medium to Blue in hardness. Great for carpet!
Y: High synthetic blend with lower grip, and is not a very popular variety.
Z: A very expensive "special" foam that is supposed to be magic on asphalt. Only make it in soft shore.
European tires:
There are many great European foam tire brands that use their own types of foam, as well as traditional foams. SOmeone with more knowledge about them will need to fill this in!

Tire Diameter:
If you are racing on carpet, you have to evaluate how much grip your track has. If your track is low to medium grip, you can run bigger tires. If you are on higher bite you have to cut them smaller, there is simply no way around it. Bigger tires are needed for asphalt, especially in the rear. The larger tires provide much needed lateral bite.

Carpet (mm):
Low - Medium Bite
Front: 42.0 - 42.5
Rear: 42.5 - 43.00
Medium - High Bite
Front: 40.5 - 41.0
Rear: 41.5 - 42.0
Big Race
Front: 39.5 - 40.0
Rear: 40.5 - 41.0
Asphalt (mm):
Parking Lot
Front: 43.0 - 44.0
Rear: 44.0 - 45.0
Prepped High Bite
Front: 42.0 - 43.0
Rear: 43.0 - 44.0

Tire Saucing:
Most facilities have moved towards odorless traction additives such as SXT. Some of additives evaporate very quickly and some do not. This seems to be something that is also dependent on tire compound and ambient temperature. For example, saucing a Green compound seems like it never dries, especially when tjhe temperature is lower. We have found that wiping the tires off 15 minutes before we go run allows the sauce to cure, which makes the car come in much quicker with Green rears. Blue compounds on the other hand, do fine when wiped off right before hitting the track.

Saucing half front and full rear is a good initial starting point. If the front of the car is too agressive you can sauce les than half, or for a shorter amount of time.
Tire Fuzzing:
In conditions of increasing grip, foam tires will somewtimes get sticky and pick up fuzz and debris from the track. This is highly dependent on the rubber sedan tire that is being run at your local track and the compound/ type of foam you are running on you car. The softer the sedan tire and the harder/higher rubber content in your foam tire, trouble with fuzzing seems more likely to occur.

There are ways to get around fuzzing under most conditions, and usually involves the selection of the correct foam compound. The more fuzz you get, the softer/lower rubber content you want to run.

Problem: Car fuzzes with Lilac/Team Purple fronts and car starts pushing.
Solution: Use a softer front tire and or different family of foam. Replace it with Blue or Double Blue front.

Problem: Car loses rear bite 6 minutes into the run. Blue rear tires look almost clean but have small carpet hairs.
Solution: Use Green rear tires. The softer compound wears instead of getting sticky, minimizing fuzz.

Tire Selection:
Starting out, pick 2 tire compounds for the front and rear. The following should have you covered 99% of the time.

Front - Green and Blue (BSR) or Green and Light Blue (JFT)
Rear - Blue and Double Blue (BSR) or Blue and Dark Blue (JFT)

You may wonder about other compounds out there and if they might be better, trust me, they probably won't be. Even if there are other tires that can be as fast, the synthetic family wears out really fast and the high natural rubber will probably fuzz on you over an 8 minute run. The blends family seems to be the most versatile foam type available today. They last awhile, and sticking to them will make your process of tire selection simpler.
Tire Charts:



JFT (Japan Foam Tire)


Enneti (Xceed)

As of now, ROAR is staying 1S (3.7V nominal; 4.2V fully charged) for 1/12. There are many 1S ESC's with a built in BEC so nothing else is required to power the receiver and servo.

If you don't want to lock yourself into a 1S specific ESC, you do have other options! It is possible to use your 2S ESC without a booster or receiver pack, and the ESC simply supplies the lower voltage. If that does not appeal to you, you will need to use an Rx pack or booster. The Rx pack and booster will both supply the receiver with a higher voltage than the 1S pack.


If you choose to use a voltage booster, it works exactly how it sounds. Instead of plugging the ESC into the receiver, it plugs into the booster, and the booster plug goes to the ESC, supplying the higher voltage.

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If anyone would like a need for a chart comparing the ESC's specs PM fenton06 and I'll get one made and put in here!
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:09 PM   #29566
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I need to find out some suppliers for threaded front axles for the AE dynamic front suspension... I had the old school type on the car and want to switch...If the axles from the old type will work, that would be good...ANY LEADS???????????

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Old 10-19-2008, 08:55 PM   #29567
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CRC has some for like $5
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Old 10-20-2008, 04:25 AM   #29568
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what settings are you using for 10.5bl & 6.5bl in 12th car?
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Old 10-20-2008, 01:48 PM   #29569
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Hey guys, I bought a pack of the wolfmotorsports springs for the VCS center shock and I can't find a website or any info on the lbs ratings. Can anyone help?
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:09 AM   #29570
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Originally Posted by CFR View Post

what settings are you using for 10.5bl & 6.5bl in 12th car?
For a 10.5

50% drag brake
60% brake strength
0 neutral width
4 throttle profile
90% timing (any higher and the motor cuts out for up to 15 seconds after a knock as I found to my cost this weekend )

I run the motor with its timing ring at minimum on 57mm/rev, but some advance it halfway and gear it at 54mm/rev. Speedo settings remain the same.

For my LRP 6.5 with a 12.5mm sintered rotor

0 drag brake
60% brake strength
0 neutral width
3 throttle profile
85% timing

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Hi all
very new to 1/12

want to find out if running a novak 4.5L brushless on a cyclone 12 a bit of a overkill... i run at a medium sized track and with spurs and pinions, how many number of teeth should i start off at? as for tires for a HOT tarmac surface which compound should i be using? medium-hard?

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Old 10-21-2008, 04:46 AM   #29572
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Colin, a 4.5 in a 1/12th is not a car, it's an uncontrolled missile!

Here in the UK the TOP (and I mean TOP) drivers seldom run a 4.5. The best use a 5.5 or a 6.5 - and our tracks are fairly big.

I would seriously recommend you consider a 10.5 - that's the "club" standard here and it's plenty fast, believe me.
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will heed that advice... thanks....
With a 10.5 brushless what sort of Drive ratio should i be aimming for?

How about with tires? which compound?
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anybody think of using the protek 2 cell 2300 mah lipo in the cars?
i havent checked everything out but i think it might work.
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anybody think of using the protek 2 cell 2300 mah lipo in the cars?
i havent checked everything out but i think it might work.
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Colin, the 10.5's are much the same, go with whichever takes yout fancy, I have the Orion Vortex and it's as good as any other.

Might be an idea to "match" the ESC and motor if you are buying both as there are loads of combination deals which work out cheaper.

As for gearing, you should be looling at around 60 - 65 mmpr for an average size outdoor track. No idea on tyres as we run indoor (at around 55 - 60 mmpr)
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Start off with the time tested Dbl Pink rear, purple fronts.

Magenta fronts are also something to try as well. At our track, Magenta fronts wear a lot quicker though.

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Default Anyone know where I might find a vintage TOJ body??

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Default 1/12th any one using TEKIN RS or PRO ESCs

I have the RS and the PRO versions of the controller.

First questions will ESCs perform equally or is one better than the other.Secondly what settings are you using for 10.5 bl .
I have 2 motors both sensored ,Novak 10.5 and the Nosram 10.5. As well as the ESC settings are you cranking the motors physically.

My car is the Corally SP12X running on large tracks 30 mts X 12 mts. Carpet racing
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Paul: The timing has no effect of the esc turning off. From the sounds of it you might have a bad unit, loose connection or it thermalled.

The RS has an oboard temp checker. If thermalled(I doubt unless you're not running the silver cap) while the car had no throttle input from your radio it will cycle between throttle setting(nuetral) and the temp signal.

The RS doesn't even breath hard with a 10.5 or 13.5 so something is amiss.

Make sure you run the silver cap. If you don't the unit can overheat prematurely. My second thought is what radio system you're running?

If you're running spectrum which receiver?

Most of the team guys are running 10.5s/13.5's in sensored only mode with maximum motor timing on the motor(physically). We generally run the timing bar at 100 in case of a sensor or sensor harness failure.

If you guys have any more RS or Tekin setup questions you can hit me up direct here: Rpike@teamtekin.com

With a 13.5 or 10.5 the RS Pro doesn't offer an advantage. The RS is shorter in height and slightly lighter. I would think that is an advantage.
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