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TIRES:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the US:
Pre-mounted tires readily available in the Europe:
  • Hot Race ??

Gluing your own donuts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm7z1rz-74s - Special thanks to Edward Pickering!
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The following information came from HERE, with some editing and information added. Thanks Christian!

THIS MAY NEED UPDATING FOR THE NEW BLACK CRC CARPET

Brands:
BSR, CRC, Jaco:
Pro One is no longer selling to the public, but it and the brands above are all mounted by BSR and use the same foam. The nomenclature of the BSR vs Jaco/CRC is a little different in a few instances but is otherwise the same. The BSR foam consists of three families, and can be identifed as synthetics, naturals, and blends.

Synthetics - The old school, light weight, easy to true "dry feeling" tires. These include tires like CRC/Jaco Yellow (BSR White), Black, Gray, etc. These tires offer the highest wear rate and lowest grip. Many racers continue to use these nder high bite conditions.

Naturals - These tires are usually the best alternative for low bite and asphalt. They include Pink, Magenta, Double Pink, Lilac (BSR Team Purple), Purple, and other tires. These tires provide a ton of grip, but tend to get sticky in high bite conditions. This rubber does not wear as easily, and the cars will pick up gunk and fibers from the carpet under most high bite conditions. This is especially bad if the humidity is high.

Blends - These are the tires most people run today. They were initially called "JFT foam" by some, as it was believed that the tires were the same as the JFT tires. We can divide the blends further into two groups: high rubber and low rubber content. The high rubber would be the new rear Orange and Red from the BSR family, and the low rubber would be the Green and Blue varieties. When, asked about the difference, John Foister from BSR Tires said they came from the same "family" of foam, but they offered different grip. According to John, the Green/Blue has more bite than Orange/Red, but from track testing Oranges offer more bite than Green (being equivalent to in hardness) when the grip is high and absolutely no grip when it is lower. The Orange foam has a denser pore structure and the tire is not as prone to chunking. It is also important to note is that BSR Blue rears are not the same as the BSR Blue fronts!

JFT:
JFT stands for Japan Foam Tire. They started the new wave of foam tires we are all using now (Blue/Blu, Green/Greene, Dbl Blue, etc). These tires are a little different than the BSR tire family, but work in very similar conditions. They offers four varieties A (asphalt), C (carpet), S (???), and R (???). This does not mean that those types only work on that surface, but this is what they recommend.

JFT uses the same foam for fronts and rears if the color is the same.

A: Used on asphalt, considered close to the natural rubber variety and are named consistently with other natural tires.
C: Used on carpet, considered a blend.
S: Used on carpet?, tires are ???
R: Used on carpet?, tires are ???

For setup, the JFT foam seem to generate more bite than the BSR, therefore the car tends to be a little more aggressive.

Ulti:
Ulti is another Japanese brand that offers an array of compounds. They have their own way of rating tires, and are difficult to equate to other brands. They have 4 different varieties, each in varying degrees of hardness.

J: High rubber content tire, similar to Pink/ Magenta. Soft would be close to a pink. These offer the most bite and are great for asphalt/carpet front tire. (J hard being very popular)
X: "Balanced" blend, similar to JFT Blue/ Green. Soft is equivalent to Green, medium to Blue in hardness. Great for carpet!
Y: High synthetic blend with lower grip, and is not a very popular variety.
Z: A very expensive "special" foam that is supposed to be magic on asphalt. Only make it in soft shore.
European tires:
There are many great European foam tire brands that use their own types of foam, as well as traditional foams. SOmeone with more knowledge about them will need to fill this in!

Tire Diameter:
If you are racing on carpet, you have to evaluate how much grip your track has. If your track is low to medium grip, you can run bigger tires. If you are on higher bite you have to cut them smaller, there is simply no way around it. Bigger tires are needed for asphalt, especially in the rear. The larger tires provide much needed lateral bite.

Carpet (mm):
Low - Medium Bite
Front: 42.0 - 42.5
Rear: 42.5 - 43.00
Medium - High Bite
Front: 40.5 - 41.0
Rear: 41.5 - 42.0
Big Race
Front: 39.5 - 40.0
Rear: 40.5 - 41.0
Asphalt (mm):
Parking Lot
Front: 43.0 - 44.0
Rear: 44.0 - 45.0
Prepped High Bite
Front: 42.0 - 43.0
Rear: 43.0 - 44.0

Tire Saucing:
Most facilities have moved towards odorless traction additives such as SXT. Some of additives evaporate very quickly and some do not. This seems to be something that is also dependent on tire compound and ambient temperature. For example, saucing a Green compound seems like it never dries, especially when tjhe temperature is lower. We have found that wiping the tires off 15 minutes before we go run allows the sauce to cure, which makes the car come in much quicker with Green rears. Blue compounds on the other hand, do fine when wiped off right before hitting the track.

Saucing half front and full rear is a good initial starting point. If the front of the car is too agressive you can sauce les than half, or for a shorter amount of time.
Tire Fuzzing:
In conditions of increasing grip, foam tires will somewtimes get sticky and pick up fuzz and debris from the track. This is highly dependent on the rubber sedan tire that is being run at your local track and the compound/ type of foam you are running on you car. The softer the sedan tire and the harder/higher rubber content in your foam tire, trouble with fuzzing seems more likely to occur.

There are ways to get around fuzzing under most conditions, and usually involves the selection of the correct foam compound. The more fuzz you get, the softer/lower rubber content you want to run.

Examples:
Problem: Car fuzzes with Lilac/Team Purple fronts and car starts pushing.
Solution: Use a softer front tire and or different family of foam. Replace it with Blue or Double Blue front.

Problem: Car loses rear bite 6 minutes into the run. Blue rear tires look almost clean but have small carpet hairs.
Solution: Use Green rear tires. The softer compound wears instead of getting sticky, minimizing fuzz.

Tire Selection:
Starting out, pick 2 tire compounds for the front and rear. The following should have you covered 99% of the time.

Front - Green and Blue (BSR) or Green and Light Blue (JFT)
Rear - Blue and Double Blue (BSR) or Blue and Dark Blue (JFT)

You may wonder about other compounds out there and if they might be better, trust me, they probably won't be. Even if there are other tires that can be as fast, the synthetic family wears out really fast and the high natural rubber will probably fuzz on you over an 8 minute run. The blends family seems to be the most versatile foam type available today. They last awhile, and sticking to them will make your process of tire selection simpler.
Tire Charts:
BSR/CRC/Jaco



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JFT (Japan Foam Tire)



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Enneti (Xceed)



ELECTRONICS:
ESC:
As of now, ROAR is staying 1S (3.7V nominal; 4.2V fully charged) for 1/12. There are many 1S ESC's with a built in BEC so nothing else is required to power the receiver and servo.

If you don't want to lock yourself into a 1S specific ESC, you do have other options! It is possible to use your 2S ESC without a booster or receiver pack, and the ESC simply supplies the lower voltage. If that does not appeal to you, you will need to use an Rx pack or booster. The Rx pack and booster will both supply the receiver with a higher voltage than the 1S pack.

If you decide to use an Rx pack, MAKE SURE TO REMOVE THE RED WIRE FROM THE ESC PLUG THAT GOES INTO THE RECEIVER!!!

If you choose to use a voltage booster, it works exactly how it sounds. Instead of plugging the ESC into the receiver, it plugs into the booster, and the booster plug goes to the ESC, supplying the higher voltage.

1S ESC:
If there are any missing please add them!!

If anyone would like a need for a chart comparing the ESC's specs PM fenton06 and I'll get one made and put in here!
Voltage Boosters:
If there are any missing please add them!
Servos:
BODIES:
Black Art (CRC - US Dist):
  • Audi R8C - BA002 - .020 Thick



  • Black Market (Mohawk 12) - BA005 - .020



  • Lola B10 - BA006 - .020 thick
  • Toyota TS030 - BA008 - .020 thick

    Lola - black/red, TS030 - green/pink


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Old 10-12-2006, 11:49 PM   #21241
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I bet you spent a lot of time on it. I spent a lot of time with one color! My bodies are solid white.

I would guess around sixty-five bones?

This is what I found on the site:: ' and features improved efficiency and slightly reduced downforce.'

Like I said, I found another lap and if I could have rounded the turns faster, better, which the body allowed me to do later in the race......I may have found lap 37. It just took some getting use to. I should have tried it during a qual so I could adjust to it and find a better line.
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This is what I found on the site:: ' and features improved efficiency and slightly reduced downforce.'
Yes, but be sure you're comparing with the same apples Protoform are. Their comparison is the 'b' with the "straight" 12, they make no comparison with any other bodies. The nose on either looks "steeper" to me which SHOULD improve front downforce. It might not...but I'll soon know.

The 'b' also adds the mid-spoiler which should serve to move the downforce forward on the body compared to the "straight" 12 if I'm reading it right.

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Old 10-13-2006, 12:18 AM   #21243
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Right, I went from the 12 to 12b, I should have mentioned that.
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Guys i have been on this 1/12 forum for a some time now trying to decide which kit i should get but now corally came out with the new kit and i look sweet but no one on this forum have nothing on the past corally is this a good kit to go with.
it is one of the best and complete kits you can get. In the US nobody likes the SP12 cars for the wheels that they use, but SP12X should changes this whith new wheel adapters. You will not get info here for this car as nobody uses it but you can find more info here:
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it is one of the best and complete kits you can get. In the US nobody likes the SP12 cars for the wheels that they use, but SP12X should changes this whith new wheel adapters. You will not get info here for this car as nobody uses it but you can find more info here:
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Thank you Ronald very informative infomation.
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You also get the poor support from Corally USA. < I have had extremely poor support, so that is just my personal opinion.



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Guys i have been on this 1/12 forum for a some time now trying to decide which kit i should get but now corally came out with the new kit and i look sweet but no one on this forum have nothing on the past corally is this a good kit to go with.
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Anyone using TRC tires anymore? What compounds of TRC are usually used if so? I just want to try different tire manufacturers and see what I like and works well on our track.
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Guys i have been on this 1/12 forum for a some time now trying to decide which kit i should get but now corally came out with the new kit and i look sweet but no one on this forum have nothing on the past corally is this a good kit to go with.
How new are you to R/C racing? Have you raced 1/10th scale or something else on carpet before? If you are brand new to 1/12th scale and/or brand new to racing on carpet, I'd say that you need to see what is raced at your local tracks. Find out who the faster racers are and find the ones who love to talk (i.e. the most friendly/helpful). Buy what they are racing. If you're fairly new, you'll probably have some questions, especially about car set up. You'll also what to know what parts the hobby shop supports the most.

1/12th scale cars are starting to look an aweful lot alike. If you are new, you may not notice much of a difference in cars. If you are experienced, then that's a whole other level of decision. If you're chasing half a second a lap of improvement from the car, then the type of car you have will matter. If you're still new and learning to drive the precision of 1/12th scale, then more time savings will come from the driver part of the equation. Learn to run consistant lap times first, then worry about the fastest car.
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Anyone using TRC tires anymore? What compounds of TRC are usually used if so? I just want to try different tire manufacturers and see what I like and works well on our track.
TRC used to be GRP tires, I got the last set of Grey and Purples from my LHS... I'm hearing the new TRC's are Jaco's with TRC on them, correct?
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Can anyone tell me what a parma violet is? I assume it is a multi compound tire but I don't see any info on what they are.

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it is one of the best and complete kits you can get. In the US nobody likes the SP12 cars for the wheels that they use, but SP12X should changes this whith new wheel adapters. You will not get info here for this car as nobody uses it but you can find more info here:
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i ran against one this weekend.it didnt look as great as its supposed to be.2 laps off pace with a a very good corally driver behind the wheel.im sure that time will make them better but i was not impressed with the performance.it was pretty though
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Sorry if its a repeat, but what spring and brush do you use for the Checkpoint 19T?
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Sorry if its a repeat, but what spring and brush do you use for the Checkpoint 19T?
I found silver spring/atlas to be pretty good, Have tried a few combo's but this one made the motor feel strong. Someone else may have better advice, though .
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