Kyosho TF-6
10-22-2012, 02:26 PM
#556
Registered User
As far as the suspension mount inserts go I never use a sheet (most likely because I forget to take it with me 
), I just do the calculations myself. Changing up (A->B) is +0.5 deg toe in, changing down (A->B-in) is -0.5 deg toe in.. it's fairly easy, just make sure you get it right.
Normally I used to run D-D out on carpet which is fairly ok, although I've been testing lately with a little bit arm-sweep (D-C out). Makes the car a little easier to drive since it reduces a bit of corner-entry steering. Works very well, please try this yourselves. John was running 1 deg arm sweep with the long arms, car was awesome!
I will hook you guys up with a carpet setup very soon. Went testing two weeks ago and wasn't completely satisfied yet so no reason to upload a setup really. Hopefully I'll be heading trackside soon to take care of some unfinished business and get a hold of a proper setup thats worth posting
), I just do the calculations myself. Changing up (A->B) is +0.5 deg toe in, changing down (A->B-in) is -0.5 deg toe in.. it's fairly easy, just make sure you get it right.Normally I used to run D-D out on carpet which is fairly ok, although I've been testing lately with a little bit arm-sweep (D-C out). Makes the car a little easier to drive since it reduces a bit of corner-entry steering. Works very well, please try this yourselves. John was running 1 deg arm sweep with the long arms, car was awesome!
I will hook you guys up with a carpet setup very soon. Went testing two weeks ago and wasn't completely satisfied yet so no reason to upload a setup really. Hopefully I'll be heading trackside soon to take care of some unfinished business and get a hold of a proper setup thats worth posting
10-22-2012, 03:23 PM
#557
As far as the suspension mount inserts go I never use a sheet (most likely because I forget to take it with me ), I just do the calculations myself. Changing up (A->B) is +0.5 deg toe in, changing down (A->B-in) is -0.5 deg toe in.. it's fairly easy, just make sure you get it right.
Normally I used to run D-D out on carpet which is fairly ok, although I've been testing lately with a little bit arm-sweep (D-C out). Makes the car a little easier to drive since it reduces a bit of corner-entry steering. Works very well, please try this yourselves. John was running 1 deg arm sweep with the long arms, car was awesome!
I will hook you guys up with a carpet setup very soon. Went testing two weeks ago and wasn't completely satisfied yet so no reason to upload a setup really. Hopefully I'll be heading trackside soon to take care of some unfinished business and get a hold of a proper setup thats worth posting
), I just do the calculations myself. Changing up (A->B) is +0.5 deg toe in, changing down (A->B-in) is -0.5 deg toe in.. it's fairly easy, just make sure you get it right.Normally I used to run D-D out on carpet which is fairly ok, although I've been testing lately with a little bit arm-sweep (D-C out). Makes the car a little easier to drive since it reduces a bit of corner-entry steering. Works very well, please try this yourselves. John was running 1 deg arm sweep with the long arms, car was awesome!
I will hook you guys up with a carpet setup very soon. Went testing two weeks ago and wasn't completely satisfied yet so no reason to upload a setup really. Hopefully I'll be heading trackside soon to take care of some unfinished business and get a hold of a proper setup thats worth posting
OK thanks alot! .......When john ran the long arms up front did he leave the short arms inthe rear?
10-22-2012, 03:50 PM
#558
Registered User
You're welcome. He ran long ones front and rear.. modified though..
11-07-2012, 05:20 AM
#560
11-07-2012, 10:56 PM
#561
;-) cts it is....
yesterday a fun night at our indoor track. Car is a bit difficult to drive with the geardiff up front, so spool goes back. short arms make the car more responsive. On the last run I tried armsweep, inserts E in frontfront and C in frontrear. Cornering felt really good and consistant, good suggestion Kiwi! ;-)
We also had the balancing station from TechWorkx to play with, very usefull and nice to work with (http://www.techworkx.nl/).
yesterday a fun night at our indoor track. Car is a bit difficult to drive with the geardiff up front, so spool goes back. short arms make the car more responsive. On the last run I tried armsweep, inserts E in frontfront and C in frontrear. Cornering felt really good and consistant, good suggestion Kiwi! ;-)
We also had the balancing station from TechWorkx to play with, very usefull and nice to work with (http://www.techworkx.nl/).
11-08-2012, 06:04 AM
#562
Ok so I'm having trouble with my steering rack ....the left side tightens up no problem with the 3x5x0.2mm washer and it still moves freely...but on the right side using the same washer and everything I can't tighten the screw all the way down or else the steering jams up ...so I have to back the screw out to keep the crank moving freely but after a couple runs it all comes apart...why can I tighten the left and not the right using the exact parts the manual is calling for....any help will be appreciated ..thanks,
11-08-2012, 09:58 AM
#563
Ok so I'm having trouble with my steering rack ....the left side tightens up no problem with the 3x5x0.2mm washer and it still moves freely...but on the right side using the same washer and everything I can't tighten the screw all the way down or else the steering jams up ...so I have to back the screw out to keep the crank moving freely but after a couple runs it all comes apart...why can I tighten the left and not the right using the exact parts the manual is calling for....any help will be appreciated ..thanks,
i wouldnt drive with the screw loose you will loose it then the steering will fall apart
11-08-2012, 01:17 PM
#564
Well I'm away from the car right now.....the bearing is fine ....I will try to double up on the spacers or try no spacer once I get home and let you know .....I hope it's just a quick fix like that.
11-08-2012, 05:41 PM
#565
Well it seems nothing I do fixes the problem ..with a spacer under the crank it's to tight with a thicker spacer then the kit the screw will tighten and the rack will turn no problem but there's up and down play on the crank on that side....I don't understand the left side is fine but the right doesn't work .....I guess kyosho does have a flaw ...it's there steering system unless someone knows of something I'm doing wrong because I've been pulling my hair out on this one and cant see what I'm doing wrong it's assembled per kit instructions.
11-08-2012, 06:26 PM
#566
Also anybody else every have all three screws blow out of there spool all at the same time ?
11-08-2012, 08:02 PM
#567
Yes i did have the spool screws come out..
My fault though.. Using crap loctite and not enough of it.
Use a good loctite and enough tension and they will stay there..
As for the steering mine has been perfect since new..
Not sure what it could be unless the thread is damaged.
My fault though.. Using crap loctite and not enough of it.
Use a good loctite and enough tension and they will stay there..
As for the steering mine has been perfect since new..
Not sure what it could be unless the thread is damaged.
11-08-2012, 10:46 PM
#568
Well it seems nothing I do fixes the problem ..with a spacer under the crank it's to tight with a thicker spacer then the kit the screw will tighten and the rack will turn no problem but there's up and down play on the crank on that side....I don't understand the left side is fine but the right doesn't work .....I guess kyosho does have a flaw ...it's there steering system unless someone knows of something I'm doing wrong because I've been pulling my hair out on this one and cant see what I'm doing wrong it's assembled per kit instructions.
11-09-2012, 05:52 AM
#569
That would be great because I'm at wits end on the rack lol
11-09-2012, 08:04 AM
#570
Registered User
How-to on the steering rack:
Take the small red posts the rack is mounted on and apply a thin layer of glue (just a single strip) and let it dry. Glue the bearings inside of the sway arms and let this dry too.. Then press the sway arms with glued bearings onto the red posts using a little force, this will eliminate play instantly!
Then replace the 0.2mm shimms with 0.2's and glue the bearings (or bushings) into the steering rack too.. bolt it all together and your steering should be free of play
Hope this helps you out!
Take the small red posts the rack is mounted on and apply a thin layer of glue (just a single strip) and let it dry. Glue the bearings inside of the sway arms and let this dry too.. Then press the sway arms with glued bearings onto the red posts using a little force, this will eliminate play instantly!
Then replace the 0.2mm shimms with 0.2's and glue the bearings (or bushings) into the steering rack too.. bolt it all together and your steering should be free of play
Hope this helps you out!