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Old 03-25-2006, 09:01 AM   #14056
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what would u guys run in stock on a fast flowing track wih a 1 tight section? its medium traction aphsalt?
ive got told a spool and a one way buy different people cant figure it out.
Everyone is pretty much running the spool but I know that I'm one of the last people that still likes his oneway. When I'm running stock or 19T I like it over the spool depending on the track layout. It's something that you just have to play with. If you need a oneway set up you can try www.gearchart.com
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Old 03-25-2006, 03:11 PM   #14057
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finally orderd me mi2 ec now well pleased should be a good drive
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Old 03-26-2006, 03:10 AM   #14058
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finally orderd me mi2 ec now well pleased should be a good drive
A warm welcome to the latest member of the EC club

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Old 03-26-2006, 08:56 AM   #14059
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are there any plans on making some different toe blocks,or hubs to alter the rear toe-in?
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Old 03-26-2006, 01:44 PM   #14060
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are there any plans on making some different toe blocks,or hubs to alter the rear toe-in?
Why do you fell the need to change them?

Any more than 2 deg and you lose a lot of straight line speed, any less and you'll get problems with the back end.

Any handling problems should be easily dialed out using the roll centre's and cambers etc.

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Old 03-26-2006, 03:00 PM   #14061
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because i'm running on a track where cars are always lose and if giving the car 1.5 degree more toe will save me 0.000000001 seconds per lap it will be worth it. (i'm just mental like that)
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Old 03-26-2006, 07:33 PM   #14062
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Hey, guys...just checking in.

Asphalt season will be starting up in the next few weeks, so you should hear more from us Northerners soon.

Got my asphalt EC built and ready to go. Just waiting for a free, relatively warm day to go and play.
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Old 03-26-2006, 08:23 PM   #14063
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Hey, guys...just checking in.

Asphalt season will be starting up in the next few weeks, so you should hear more from us Northerners soon.

Got my asphalt EC built and ready to go. Just waiting for a free, relatively warm day to go and play.
Hey Jon opening day at Glenn Burnie is April 8th. You can come race with me, punkboy and fastasu2. Good way to break in that car.
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:28 PM   #14064
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I drove my Mi2EC for the second time on asphalt and must say that it is really fast. I started out with the spool but since this track is mega-large european track (1:8 IC track with 90 mtr straight) the one-way suited the car better and kept the car rolling better through the long fast corners.

On a smaller track the spool would probably be my choice. (first time out last week was on a small track with spool)

Only thing I noticed was a bit of lack in initial steering. After setting some anti-dive in front and changing the rollcenter in the front the car was dailed. (thanks to Jon for the tips)

If anyone is interested in a one-way setup for a large fast track drop me an email.

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Everyone is pretty much running the spool but I know that I'm one of the last people that still likes his oneway. When I'm running stock or 19T I like it over the spool depending on the track layout. It's something that you just have to play with. If you need a oneway set up you can try www.gearchart.com
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Old 03-27-2006, 08:09 AM   #14065
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can anyone hive me some good advice on the ec that may be different from the origanl mi2
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Old 03-27-2006, 08:53 AM   #14066
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can anyone hive me some good advice on the ec that may be different from the origanl mi2
Here are a couple of things that aren't clear in the manual:

1. Be sure to only use 1 diff spacer front and rear (not 4).
2. The L & R on the suspension blocks should face the chassis with the pins in the high position.
3. The diff might be slightly tight. I always take apart the prebuilt diff (not the thrust) and sand the rings, rebuild with fresh grease, back off a 1/4 turn from tight and then break-in on the stand.
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Old 03-27-2006, 09:01 AM   #14067
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can anyone hive me some good advice on the ec that may be different from the original Mi2
Physically the EC has:

Higher roll centers
Less front and rear hub offset
Wider lower hinge pin spacing
Raised diffs for more drive shaft plunge
Different inner camber link locations
Different shock mounting locations
New Shocks
New Rear hubs
New Wheel Hexes
New lighter Diff housings
New lighter Motor mount
New Lay shaft mounts
New Top deck
New Drive train
lots more...

Performance differences:

The EC has more steering
The EC carries more corner speed
The EC is more stable
The EC easier to drive faster
The EC turns faster lap times
The new drive train holds up to any motor you could ever imagine bolting in.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:00 AM   #14068
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Here are a couple of things that aren't clear in the manual:

1. Be sure to only use 1 diff spacer front and rear (not 4).
2. The L & R on the suspension blocks should face the chassis with the pins in the high position.
3. The diff might be slightly tight. I always take apart the prebuilt diff (not the thrust) and sand the rings, rebuild with fresh grease, back off a 1/4 turn from tight and then break-in on the stand.
When I built mine I found it was better with no diff spacers at all. That left about 0.15mm of play, the spacers are 0.20mm thick.

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Old 03-27-2006, 10:02 AM   #14069
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I never owned the original MI2, but I'm very happy with the EC. It is smooth and fast.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:38 AM   #14070
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I second Paul's comments on the diff and the diff spacers.

I too break in my diffs on a car stand and also use super high-grit sand paper to polish the diff rings. The rear diff is quite smooth on my asphalt EC.

By experimentation I found that one diff shim was just right on the car. With four, it's incredibly tight.
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