R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-14-2002, 04:09 PM   #1051
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: England
Posts: 1,466
Send a message via ICQ to MattW
Default

Jesse, Upper bulkhead positions and or off set hubs on the front.

I think that is what i would be trying.
MattW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 04:18 PM   #1052
Tech Champion
 
Kevin K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
Posts: 8,826
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Kevin K Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin K
Default

Jesse T....You can try to add more camber to the car and run the upper arms in the upper holes if not there already. Also run the upper arm on the inside of the hub(not INLINE). Your car may be too stiff and that is why its traction rolling. With the stiff springs you put alot of the corrnering force on the tire and thats where all the traction is at. You need to let the car absorb some of it in the suspension or swaybars. See if you are already at 100wt oil and stiff springs you dont have to many options to go to after that. So next time strart out softer and then you can make the car progessivly stiffer if needed. But Im sure that if you ran the car a little softer with the sway bars you would be fine. But a Quick easy fix is more camber.
__________________
2013 USVTA World Champion of the World
MOTIV RC presents the Midwest All-Star Carpet Series....15th year running 2017/18!!!
USVTA National Championship....check it out!!!
Im only responsible for what I say NOT what you understand.
Kevin K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 05:31 PM   #1053
Tech Regular
 
Racer X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 475
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Jesse: As already suggested, upper bulkhead mount, but you didn't mention where the shocks are mounted. Standing the shocks up will give less side bite which is what usually causes traction rolls. Also, when the traction comes up at our local track, I only use traction compound to clean the tires...on then wipe it off. Hope that helps...
__________________
Schumacher Mi6
Speed Passion Motors and ESCs
Integy
SpeedWorld Raceway Roseville CA.
Racer X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 05:33 PM   #1054
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Indiana
Posts: 39
Default Where to buy?

I've had my Pro 2 for awhile now, but I'm looking to get a new car. I have to say, the Mission looks awesome. My LHS only carries HPI, AE and Losi, so I can't get a Mission from them. I'm somewhat concerned that I won't be able to get parts and no one will have setup advice. I'm going to start racing at a club on the north side at the start of spring, so I think my concerns are justified. What do you guys think about my situation, and if you suggest I get the Mission, from where should I get it? Thanks
Leinzey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 06:02 PM   #1055
Tech Champion
 
Kevin K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
Posts: 8,826
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Kevin K Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin K
Default

Leinzeny.....You can order the car/parts direct from Schumacher USA if you LHS wont get one for you. Where at in IN. are you going to race? Also you can stop by here and anyone here will offer to help you out with setup or contact Schumacher USA for help.

RacerX....I always laid my shocks down when the grip comes up. With them more stood up that offers more side bite imho. There will be more resistance to roll with the shocks laid down with increased weight transfer from front to back under braking and acceleration. Just what I have found at many high grip carpet races.
__________________
2013 USVTA World Champion of the World
MOTIV RC presents the Midwest All-Star Carpet Series....15th year running 2017/18!!!
USVTA National Championship....check it out!!!
Im only responsible for what I say NOT what you understand.
Kevin K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 06:25 PM   #1056
PW
Tech Elite
 
PW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Groveland, FL
Posts: 4,385
Send a message via AIM to PW
Default

Thanks Speedy

Kevin is right, you want to lay the shocks in as the bite comes up.

Keep up the good work guys
PW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 07:00 PM   #1057
Tech Champion
 
Kevin K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
Posts: 8,826
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Kevin K Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin K
Default

Thanks, Paul and congrats on the win. Hey it looks like you might see some snow in a couple weeks up here. You better go out and get the heavy coat now.....where would you find one in fla.??? Hey I heard that McMahon is comming to the Novak race is this true?
__________________
2013 USVTA World Champion of the World
MOTIV RC presents the Midwest All-Star Carpet Series....15th year running 2017/18!!!
USVTA National Championship....check it out!!!
Im only responsible for what I say NOT what you understand.
Kevin K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2002, 11:18 PM   #1058
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 250
Send a message via ICQ to JesseT
Default

Hmmmm... Thanks for your opinions. I'm not running in-line steering, the shocks are laid down all the way and the upper wishbones are on the lower hole. I'll try some of the things you suggested and some of my own.
Just wondering of one thing... Why increasing camber (both ends?) would help? Or is the point just to have less front tire area?
Best regards, Jesse
JesseT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 12:03 AM   #1059
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 55
Default When to run the upper arm in-line and when not?

Hi all,
I found out that changing the upper arm position on the hub will change the ackerman effect alot (does not much with RC). Does this mean: in-line on tight circuits and low traction conditions? NOT in-line on wide circuits and high traction conditions?

Also when do you want more camber change (i guess in combination with less castor) and when not??

Thanks in advance
Sandor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 12:11 PM   #1060
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 122
Default NEW CAR

Ordered my car today!! I also ordered threaded bodies and alloy cartridges! i can't wait will be here in 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!
wilson10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 12:13 PM   #1061
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 122
Default

One other thing, good setup for stock on smoothe but med/low aspahlt track. Currently has a tight layout but may have changed this week. Thanks!!
wilson10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 12:23 PM   #1062
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Indiana
Posts: 39
Default

I live in Ft. Wayne, and there isn't a real track around here. There is a group of people who race at the armory out north on tuesday nights. I guess I'll call my LHS and see if they can order a Mission for me. How much is a Mission usually? I just want to compare prices with what my LHS offers. Thanks.
Leinzey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 12:30 PM   #1063
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 122
Default

Your LHS shouldn't charge any more that 279.99 which is what you can get it for from Schumacher USA.
wilson10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 01:07 PM   #1064
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Indiana
Posts: 39
Default

One more thing; when I was looking at the Schumacher USA shop and saw the Mission S1 and the Mission Carbon. Obviously the carbon has, well, carbon fiber and the S1 doesn't. Are there any other differences between the two kits, and which should I get? Thanks.
Leinzey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2002, 01:23 PM   #1065
Tech Champion
 
Kevin K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
Posts: 8,826
Trader Rating: 32 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Kevin K Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin K
Default

Leinzey....The only differance is the carbon fiber chassis parts and shock towers every thing elese is the same with both kits. How far of a drive is it for you to Indy? I know that they have a decent carpet track. Also there is a track in Joliet IL. that might be about a 2 hour drive but its a big track with lots of fast racers. I know there are some tracks in MI. but dont know how far from you.
__________________
2013 USVTA World Champion of the World
MOTIV RC presents the Midwest All-Star Carpet Series....15th year running 2017/18!!!
USVTA National Championship....check it out!!!
Im only responsible for what I say NOT what you understand.
Kevin K is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Corner Dots anyone? RCGaryK Electric On-Road 19 07-03-2006 11:12 PM
On the Corner RC-HPI R/C Photography 0 08-02-2005 10:53 PM
Snowbirds Around the Corner scarecrow Florida Racing 20 01-27-2005 10:43 AM
1/12th Corner GT Racer Singapore R/C Racers 26 03-04-2004 06:59 AM
Shumacher Corner in Aus jamesbaxter_81 Australian Racing 6 01-08-2004 02:36 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:25 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net