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Old 12-08-2001, 10:08 PM   #721
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Spooky-Try this:

High Traction Asphalt Setup

Front:
Shock tower-3
Upper Hub Ball-1
Steering arm-2
Upper a-arm mount-2
Lower suspension arm-1
Hinge pin mount-2 deg
Oil-70wt
Spring-Red
Piston-2 holes on stock piston
Spacer-none
Length-66mm
Droop-2.5mm (3mm on Hudy gauge)
Anti-Roll Bar-Stock
Castor-8.5 deg, one spacer in front and behind the upper a-arm mount
Toe in-0 deg
Ride Height-5mm
Camber-0.5 deg
Lower wishbones-stock, rear position
Driveshafts-stock, plastic

Rear:
Shock tower-3
Upper Hub Ball-1
Upper a-arm mount-2
Lower suspension arm-1
Hinge pin mount-2 deg
Oil-70wt
Spring-Red
Piston-2 holes on stock piston
Spacer-none
Length-66mm
Droop-2.5mm (3mm on Hudy gauge)
Anti-Roll Bar-Stock
Anti-squat-none, blocks flat on chassis
Toe in-2 deg
Ride Height-5mm
Camber-1 deg
Lower wishbones-stock, mid position
Driveshafts-stock, plastic

Motor-P2K2 (35/116) and Chameleon2 (34/116)
Drive Pulley-17T
Body- Protoform Stratus
One Way-None
Front Tires-Yokomo 138G
Rear Tires-Yokomo 138G
Inserts-Yokomo Firm Molded
Tire Traction-none
Chassis-Carbon
ESC-Keyence Zero V Extreme
Cells-Schumacher XVS Stock Metals (G704)

Med/Low Traction Asphalt Setup

Front:
Shock tower-3
Upper Hub Ball-1
Steering arm-2
Upper a-arm mount-2
Lower suspension arm-1
Hinge pin mount-2 deg
Oil-60wt
Spring-Blue
Piston-2 holes on stock piston
Spacer-none
Length-66mm
Droop-2.5mm (3mm on Hudy gauge)
Anti-Roll Bar-Stock
Castor-8.5 deg, one spacer in front and behind the upper a-arm mount
Toe in-0 deg
Ride Height-5.5mm
Camber-0 deg
Lower wishbones-stock, rear position
Driveshafts-stock, plastic

Rear:
Shock tower-3
Upper Hub Ball-1
Upper a-arm mount-2
Lower suspension arm-1
Hinge pin mount-2 deg
Oil-60wt
Spring-Blue
Piston-2 holes on stock piston
Spacer-none
Length-66mm
Droop-2.5mm (3mm on Hudy gauge)
Anti-Roll Bar-Stock
Anti-squat-none, blocks flat on chassis
Toe in-2.5 deg
Ride Height-5.5mm
Camber-1.5 deg
Lower wishbones-stock, mid position
Driveshafts-stock, plastic

Motor-P2K2 (35/116) and Chameleon2 (34/116)
Drive Pulley-17T
Body- Protoform Stratus
One Way-None
Front Tires-Yokomo 138G
Rear Tires-Yokomo 138G
Inserts-Yokomo Molded Firm
Tire Traction-None
Chassis-Carbon
ESC-Keyence Zero V Extreme
Cells-Schumacher XVS Stock Metals (G704)


Darkside-We have to assume that people are going to beat the crap out of their cars. As a result we have to build in extra safetly margins like not counter sinking too deep. A lot of people counter sink their chassis more than stock and have no problems. We build a durable car an leave it up to the racers to decide if they need to do this. To be honest though, I don't think I have ever lost a race due to screw drag...LOL!
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Old 12-08-2001, 10:15 PM   #722
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Brandon-Way to Go!!!!

Copy my setup from below, paste it in a reply and change it so it shows a detailed version of your setup.



Brian Jucha Joins team Schumacher!!!

He's going to be running the Mission for the firs time at S&N this weekend.

KevinK-Let us know how you guys do this weekend!
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Old 12-08-2001, 10:22 PM   #723
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Adrian- Ive said it before and Ill say it again. You are a champ

Going to have more runs with the Mission tomorrow where it will be hotter. Super keen to try your setups out.

The asphalt setup in the manula is excellent in cool conditions though.

Has anyone got the oneways yet? Im desperate to get one as im in warm conditions on a fast flowing track which is pretty large. My Mission has just about the same steering as every other car out there running the oneway diff and I dont have it! Exciting times!
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Old 12-08-2001, 10:27 PM   #724
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Spooky - Whats the story allright mate! One of the best albums ever! Not as good as Definetly Maybe though!

Is anyone keen on a Schumacher website for drivers with pictures, setups etc?

I always try to collate all the great info on here, but to put it online would be great I think. We could have an address like http://drive.to/schumacher
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Old 12-08-2001, 11:35 PM   #725
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I just got back from the track a little bit ago and helped Brian get his car race ready. I ran my car last weekend on rubber tires and had a rough time with the car it wanted to chatter and roll over in the corrner and then at the same time it was loose. I went back to the bench and looked over the car and put the setup that I have on there now and its awsome. When Brian and I finnished working on his car he wanted to try my car and see how my car worked to try my set up. So I did and he was very fast with the car so needless to say we went back into the pits and thrashed on his car to change it over to my setup. He ran no packs through the car and jumped in with the rest of the mod guys racing tonight and just made them look silly. He really likes the car and is just about up to speed with it. I will meet up with him later this morning to go up to the the track in Wisconsin and race and do some testing for the NOVAK touring car champs. I will let you all know how it all goes. He might get the chance to race againts Paul L. but I think he has tickets to the Packers Vs. Bears game...............................which is a lost cause because Da Bears will win but we shal see.
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Old 12-08-2001, 11:41 PM   #726
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Thats a very strange setup there. Grey(soft) springs with 80 wt oil and just a swaybar on the front!
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Old 12-09-2001, 12:17 AM   #727
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Has anyone noticed that the Mission is slightly tweaked as standard and needs more preload on the left? The Axis 2 was slightly to the right. I might expect that though with the battery layout on the Mission.
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One-ways, Became available in the UK on Friday. I got mine Saturday and ran it in the car on cold Tarmac. Very impressive.
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Old 12-09-2001, 02:31 PM   #729
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I just got back from my local club race. I TQ'd in stock against the best local drivers and finished 4th. I hit a pipe on the 2nd lap and let everyone get by me .

I used the Low/Med Traction setup from below. I started running 138G's but ended up using CS22's with stock inserts front and rear. Wow, These tires work even when its hot! It was in the high 80's today. Car had lots of steering and plenty of rear traction. With this setup I had to run cut hubs on my A2 but the Mission dosen't seem to need them.

Oasis-Every Mission I have seen has been flat as a board. Check to see if your steering bellcrank screws went into their loeer bloack crooked and are pushing on the top plate. Also try loosening your lower trans housing screws 1/8th if a turn. If they were tight going in they might twist the housings causing a tweak.
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AdrianM - Well done with your racing. Mission domination!

I dont think I had much of a problem with screws on angles or overtightening but was wondering if you had to add much weight to get the car to legal limit(1500g here?) I havent had a chance to weigh mine but suspect weight is required behind the motor on the left
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Oasis-Yeah, I added 3 squares of 1/4oz lead behind the motor to bring my car up to US weight regs (53os).

Mission Alloy Parts will be in stock at Schumacher USA on Wednesday

The oneways were ready too late in the day to make our shipment. We could get them as early as late next week.

Schumacher USA will sell 2 hop ups not listed in the Instructions.

R005 Stainless Hex Screw Kit $14.99
L1000 Lundsford Ti Turnbuckle/Hinge Pin kit $29.99
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Okay guys, looking for a GOOD price on a Keyence Zero Extreme. Finally gotta break down and replace the old true blue G12c III. Lowest I've found so far is $179. Hoping to find one for a little cheaper. Any ideas?
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KevinK- Hey man thanks a lot I got those batts in on Saurday! It was so cool of you man! Also, on the Missions right side steering post, did u put a black spacer(2mm) between the lower rack, and the upper? If I remeber correctly I think you told that you did in Cleveland?


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Old 12-09-2001, 07:32 PM   #734
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No prob Corey........I put a bunch of brass motor shims under the right bell-crank to level the bell cranks out......it might be about 2 mm not sure I just added them until it was level.

Brain J. TQed and won mod sedan at a club race in Milwaukee Wisc. His car was fast all day and I thought it looked the best on TakeOff 22's with stock inserts. I will post more info later just got back.
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I'm about halfway through the build on my Mission and I just had to take a break to say what a nice job Shumacher did on this kit. It really does almost feel like it snaps together... a VERY nice building experience so far.

Looks like I should easily have it ready to go for next weekend. I'm really looking forward to driving this car.

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