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Old 02-24-2003, 06:58 PM   #3901
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Paul.... I noticed that the team drivers have went back to the kit roll center in the front. Can you explain the plus and minus of each roll center and when you would use each and maybe tell us why you went back to the origanal roll center?
The stock roll-center seems to give more steering entering corners and the raised roll-center seems to give more steering in the middle and exiting the turns.

We have gone back to almost all stock Mission cars and are going just as fast and faster. So we decided that its just not time to try and reinvent the wheel.....LOL
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Old 02-24-2003, 07:23 PM   #3902
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I think roll center is one of the most prfound changes you can make to a car. I used roll centers as the number one change on my last car (Losi). Cool to see some carryover between cars. I know anytime the car was over reactive in terms of steering I would raise the roll center. This would take away that twitchy turn in steering. But boy when I could not get the car to initiate the corner Lowering the roll center was the ticket. So I think the mod (high roll) has merit when the track dictates that it should be run.

I am interested in testing the raised upper bulkhead mod that was discussed a few pages ago...got my pistons in the car last night and look forward to playing with the car again this week!

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Old 02-24-2003, 08:38 PM   #3903
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Paul, could you elaborate more on "almost all stock mission"? On foams or rubber's?
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:02 PM   #3904
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Been doing some wrenching this week and man am I liking the results. Followed many of Big's tips and have the car ready for some piston/oil testing. Did one thing that I have been reading about from most of you and that was to put in the RW Pullies. Hop Ups are usually so over hyped that they leave a person disapointed....well that is NOT the story with those bad boys! The car is like a new car! I cannot believe how free it is now. I am running the Grey front belt and stock rear and the car is more free than any sedan I have owned...I am going to Tulsa this weekend with it...man this thing is going to fly....

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Old 02-25-2003, 12:48 AM   #3905
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Actually I am not racing at all right now. Taking a break for a couple of months due to a baby coming any day. Wife about had enough of me racing all of the country too I will be back soon and "might" play with a Mission. I heard there is a new diff and it is smooth? Parts availibility is the issue here.

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Old 02-25-2003, 09:51 AM   #3906
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Congratulations Rob!!!!!

Not sure about the new diff being all that great. I used Acer HCCA balls in my used diffs and didn't even replace the races and they are very smooth. Not Xray smooth, but TC3 smooth. I'm happy with them. The key is using a ball that is similar in hardness to the race. And a ball that is very round. I have found there is quite a difference in round and VERY round diff balls...lol
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Jeff I agree with you on the RW pullies...the other mod's i recomend are the aluminum diff housings and layshaft mount. they seem to help in freeing the car up even more I am also really interested in finding out how that 19 tooth pulley is working. that sounds like an awesome idea. taking order for them yet? LOL
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Old 02-26-2003, 02:35 AM   #3908
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Working very well actually. I raised and shimmed the original plastic layshaft mounts 1.5 mm higher than usual and the belt tension is perfect now for any power. Of course it would be much easier to use the standard 20t pulley and lower the layshaft the same 1.5 mm.
Has anyone found a cure to the huge play of the pivot balls in the lower wishbones?
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Ti Racing makes titanium pivot balls that are slightly oversized. If you use new arms with them they are a little tight, but if you use the same arms that already have a little slop, they fit perfect. I tried out a set at the Snowbirds- thanks PW!!!
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hey guys I am selling my mission carbon with tons of hop ups and warpspeed chassie. email me for more info and pics.

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Hey drew, not to give you competition but i am selling one as well, lots of hop ups and warpspeed chassis as well. Also a US Touring Car Champs setup on the car too (close to what the team guys ran).

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I agree with Big Dog, on the Ti balls. They fit a little tighter and they are a little larger on the shaft. They have worked very well for me. Before them I was using the hi tensile ones and bending them every week. So my conclusion is they are pretty damn good.
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PW can the new diff part be used with the RW pulleys?
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i broke one of my shock shaft on my shumacher axis is there a cross for another brand that would work i would like to get it from a local shop sence its the only thing that i need?

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Losi Shock shafts work great and I use the Losi #60 pistons.
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