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Old 04-22-2008, 03:50 PM   #25876
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Now you've just gotta start mounting your own tires so you don't have to use those hideous white dishes!

Not to be a copycat but I believe I may tear my car apart this week and dye all my stuff too, it really makes the car look nice.
You're one of those huh? I just don't get the hatred of dish wheels. Fancy bling wheels are for drifters and bashers IMO. My tires last 4 or 5 runs. nice "pretty" spoked wheels get tossed in the trash after that the same as the tough white dish wheels that most of us use.
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You're one of those huh? I just don't get the hatred of dish wheels. Fancy bling wheels are for drifters and bashers IMO. My tires last 4 or 5 runs. nice "pretty" spoked wheels get tossed in the trash after that the same as the tough white dish wheels that most of us use.
lol I only have hatred of white dish wheels. I run dishes, just not white, I've got orange, yellow, and clear I forget tires only last you 4-5 runs, though. For me they're like 15-20, maybe even more, at least my Sorex28s are. RP30s on the other hand seem ruined after 3 runs.

Just a warning, I finally put that setup you gave me on the car, to a T, except toe out and camber because I don't have proper measuring tools. So on Thursday I'm sure I'll send you a message asking how to get more push out of it I can never get enough push out of anything....
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:06 PM   #25880
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hey guys i got a slight problem
i just rebuilt my diff, didnt touch the thrust bearing just cleaned the diff balls and relubed, i actually loosened it this time compared to wat it was, and i like to run lots of diff lube so the action of the diff is stiff and slow, but when i checked to see how tight it was it didnt slip like normal it clicked? any idea what this is? it was chucky and clickedas it slipped in chunks not smooth like normal,
i continued to break it in and after i rann it the click seems to be gone any idea's what i may have done wrong?
also does any one make dust shields for the rear diff?
and what servo savers fit the mi3 i think i need one?
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:27 PM   #25881
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hey guys i got a slight problem
i just rebuilt my diff, didnt touch the thrust bearing just cleaned the diff balls and relubed, i actually loosened it this time compared to wat it was, and i like to run lots of diff lube so the action of the diff is stiff and slow, but when i checked to see how tight it was it didnt slip like normal it clicked? any idea what this is? it was chucky and clickedas it slipped in chunks not smooth like normal,
i continued to break it in and after i rann it the click seems to be gone any idea's what i may have done wrong?
also does any one make dust shields for the rear diff?
and what servo savers fit the mi3 i think i need one?
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The first thing you shouldn't have done was not touch the thrust. IMO, when a diff goes out, the thrust is the problem 90% of the time. The second thing is that you don't want to use a lot of diff lube. Lube isn't there to give a smooth diff action. That's what the balls are for. The lube is there simply to cool the balls so they don't over heat. I don't put any lube on the rings at all. I just put some diff lube on the tip of my finger and thumb, pick up the ball with it off a clean shop towel, and roll it round in the lube. Then drop it into the pulley. That's all the diff lube you need. More lube just makes the diff slip more, creating more heat, and attracting more dust and dirt. There's really no need for dust shields if the diff is built right.

The two most important things are to make sure everything is clean, and that you don't get any black thrust grease (even possible contaminated residue on your fingers) on the main balls or rings. I use gloves (to keep the oils from my skin from contaminating the rings and balls), a lot of motor spray, and about 20 minutes to build a diff now. And they turn out great and last a long time if you take the time to do it right the first time. (I just put the first new diff in my car since the Reedy Race last May.) Whatever you do, when you build a diff, build the whole thing. Not just balls and rings. The chunky clicking you're feeling is probably the thrust full of dirt and gunk. If I were you, I'd get new balls (not the ceramic, get the carbide. They work better) new rings, and a new thrust just in case you damaged anything. Make sure you sand both sides of the rings using an old thrust side out drive, a flat surface, and some 600 grit, wet dry sand paper with motor spray on it to make sure they're flat on both sides. The small grooves the sanding leaves will also give the diff balls some more traction on the rings and keep the diff from slipping with a looser setting. Also make sure that you look at the rings profile. One side will be rounded where it was stamped out and one side will be more square. Make sure you put the square edge against the outdrive. It'll hold better to the outdrive and keep it from shifting. Also, make sure you get the older Mi2 rings, not the Mi3 rings. The Mi3 rings with the key on them can cause problems by not letting the ring slip a little if you get a funky side load on the diff. Like when you ride up a curb similar to the Tamiya track.

Adrian posted a step by step a while back. Find it and follow it to a T.

As for a servo saver, if you have a metal gear servo, just use the plastic horn that comes with the car. It's going to strip out before the metal gears are going to.
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lol I only have hatred of white dish wheels. I run dishes, just not white, I've got orange, yellow, and clear
Clear dish wheels? OK.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:35 PM   #25883
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As for a servo saver, if you have a metal gear servo, just use the plastic horn that comes with the car. It's going to strip out before the metal gears are going to.
If you're me, it will strip on your first crash as 12mph, ruining your whole night because you don't have a spare So order some spares for when you do strip it.
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Better than stripping a $120 servo and better than having your car wonder all over the track because your servo saver is flexing.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:43 PM   #25885
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Come drive mine tomorrow around 6 and see if you think it wanders all over. It goes straight as an arrow far as I'm concerned and all I run is one of the cheap Kimbroughs.

Tamiya also makes a servo saver that's strong enough for 1/8 scales, it's WAY overkill to keep a little tiny touring car going straight. I about killed myself assembling it the springs are so strong.

Perhaps I'm wrong, though.


A thought just occurred to me. Maybe I don't have trouble because I'm on a small track running 19t. No high speeds or really big turns to put loads on the saver?
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Hey guys, I've got some winter rubbers I need to store until next winter. Any suggestions on keeping them from drying out? I was thinking just coating with tweak and putting them in a well sealed bag.
When I did something similar I used a re-sealable bag.

I cleaned then applied additive and left them for a while, just as if I was going got use them in the next race.
Then wipe off any excess and store in the bag, try and get as much air out of the bag as possible and keep them in a fairly temperature stable enviroment.

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How do you eat your Capt Crunch at the track if not in the white dish wheels? (don't forget to plug the hole first)
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