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Old 03-20-2008, 08:03 AM   #25486
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As much as I would like to take credit for this setup....this is ALL Seaballs' doing. I came with the car exactly like this, I changed oil, springs, and a few small things as traction was changing, but by the 2nd day of qualifying, I was back to exactly the same setup I came with...

Goetz also tried this setup at his local track, and it was just as dialed there with "club traction" as it was in Paragon high bite.....

I will say that this is the BEST car I have ever driven in my life....no lie....for those that were there, they can attest to how good the car looked...

I can't wait to try it out here at home....

Again, all props goes to Yoda Goetz.....
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:17 AM   #25487
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hey andrew, mcgoo's setup look familiar?
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:25 AM   #25488
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Couple of things....

1) More caster
2) Shorten camber links....
3) Harder springs will make your car react faster....but, could also make it push

not sure about the moving the wishbones, maybe Yoda Goetz can confirm or shoot down my suggestions...
i like them all so far (including the longer track rod suggestion and the wheelbase). the only clarification being that more castor gives you more steering, but it is slower to cut. the car sways more, instead of jumping.

let me add:

rear toe (increasing) - will make the car more reactive, and often will not take away steering.
front offset (hex) - narrower hexes will cut faster. put at the pins what you remove from the hex.

for this request, however, my favorites are the ones that, unconditionally, add both steering AND quickness. those are:

a) shorter links
b) shorter wheelbase

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I can't wait to try it out here at home.........
Run one pack then bag it and tag it for Vegas. You need to save that puppy!!

Nice run at the nats. I was impressed!!!

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Old 03-20-2008, 09:53 AM   #25490
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:08 AM   #25491
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Look like I need to ship McGoo some more bodies!!

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Old 03-20-2008, 10:24 AM   #25492
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Run one pack then bag it and tag it for Vegas. You need to save that puppy!!

Nice run at the nats. I was impressed!!!

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No doubt, i just want to try it out...its going up on the shelf after that....
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:53 AM   #25493
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hey andrew, mcgoo's setup look familiar?
LOL. Um, yea. I can't believe how simialr it is. Aside from the high diffs, extra mm on the rear hub, 2 mm bumpsteer shims, and the rear tow, I think its identical.

Can't wait to chase 30 laps with the 3 of you this weekend. marker, yang, you gunna make it???
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:11 PM   #25494
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the rear end stuff. I could not make those changes. with the tamale 2* rear,could not do 1.5 and the shims, was not sure the height. I had the bump steer in this past weekend.

I will be there this weekend

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LOL. Um, yea. I can't believe how simialr it is. Aside from the high diffs, extra mm on the rear hub, 2 mm bumpsteer shims, and the rear tow, I think its identical.

Can't wait to chase 30 laps with the 3 of you this weekend. marker, yang, you gunna make it???
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:50 PM   #25495
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Guys..I have been running the Cris Ashton Test Day setup on tarmac rubber(sorex 36)using brushless stock for a while now ..with good results(top 3 in A mains)..I am entered in an event (Brushless stock)using foam on Tarmac...any suggestions as to changes I might need to do for a base setup before I arrive
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:46 PM   #25496
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As much as I would like to take credit for this setup....this is ALL Seaballs' doing. I came with the car exactly like this, I changed oil, springs, and a few small things as traction was changing, but by the 2nd day of qualifying, I was back to exactly the same setup I came with...

Goetz also tried this setup at his local track, and it was just as dialed there with "club traction" as it was in Paragon high bite.....

I will say that this is the BEST car I have ever driven in my life....no lie....for those that were there, they can attest to how good the car looked...

I can't wait to try it out here at home....

Again, all props goes to Yoda Goetz.....
Hey Marc, what's the dezzy with the front castor, the shocks lengths, and rear pistons?
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Thought I'd throw this out there and see if anybody is interested. The car felt great and I'd like some input. This is a Rubber Tire Setup!

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Old 03-20-2008, 06:27 PM   #25498
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:30 PM   #25499
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Hey Marc, what's the dezzy with the front castor, the shocks lengths, and rear pistons?
castor? what, fives? they are tamale, mi3 specials. he (larry@tamale)should still have some (marc can confirm). big $ (50 of them), but worth every one.

lengths? i never check. i just thread the ball cup on until it nearly bottoms (covers all but a thread or so). then, i put them on the car. i see no reason to leave threads out, putting the piston further into the body. so, whatever that comes out to. i should probably determine a # and start filling it in as such. the front cups were cut 1mm (for the carpet towers) and therefore won't cover as many threads. the shock length is essentially the same but the perch (ae) sits lower in the front only.

rear pistons? essentially they are like the drilled 1.3mm pistons from cleveland. instead, i used the two hole pistons and put two more holes (1.0mm) in them. it's not real critical how you get the rear dampened (as much as the front). if you don't want to go buy a little drill and handle to do it, just put the usual (for me) 30wt back there. *i don't ever recommend leaving anything out of a setup, but i tried different shocks in the rear a few weeks ago, and the piston size didn't matter enough for me to tell (eg, 3/30, 4/40, or 1.3/45). so, if you want to be lazy, i'm granting permission on this, and this only.

something i tried to do with this, came from my snowbirds setup, which used 2/3 pistons f/r. that seemed like too much pack bias toward the front, so i went 3/4 here. the drilling (versus reaming to another diameter) sort of lets me quantify the amount of area easier (pie-r-squared ). that's all.

it's actually a setup i've never run prior to marc's car (but obviously similar to cleveland). i'm anxious to get it on my car tomorrow. (it'll probably suck - lol).
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shawn, just wanted to make a public post giving you a "atta boy"

i've been cutting and pasting your posts about the speed passion line of products and extra "wordy" posts on lipos and such on our local northwest thread, and referred a newbie to the thread when he had a question on "c" ratings, i got a very nice pm from him thanking me for reposting all of your info. he liked the fact that there was no BS, or hype, and just good straight forward info, he is going all SP and CORE, esc, motor, lipos and charger, job well done sir.
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