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Old 11-02-2007, 05:46 AM   #22816
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could anybody answer my questions about spools please
The spool in the front of the car will take away alittle entry steering, but will give you more on-power steering coming out of the corner.

Racers use this on asphalt tracks alot.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:22 AM   #22817
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Hey Guys,

I wrote a comprehensive FAQ and care-and-feeding guide to the CORE lipos that's currently buried somewhere on the website, but here is a direct link:

http://www.secureonlineshopping.biz/...&pagewidth=550

I've been Lipo and brushless only since '03 in cars (and for much longer in aircraft) and it's about time everyone else is finally accepting the ease of use, simplicity and FUN that running them brings back into racing/bashing. We in the car world are YEARS behind the power system understanding curve when compared to the flight side of the hobby. Fortunately the slow seeping in of brushless/Lipo tech into the car side has now become a flood of new products and information.

While setup is certainly not my personal forte, you can consider me your personal power consultant and guide to help navigate you through the array of "new" technology now coming into our use like wildfire.

I've been pounding the first production CORE lipo pack almost daily since I pried it out of Adrian's hands back in June and it's still performing at 100%. The coolest thing about it (pun intended) is there isn't anything I can throw at it in a car that even comes close to it's capability limit. I've even had it in our GTRe 8th scale onroad car to the tune of 60mph, and where a couple Mamba Max systems did NOT survive a full run - the CORE pack had heated up to a whopping 10deg above ambient temp.

My other favorite feature about it is that I can show up to the track early on race day, or on a practice day and run a solid and continuous 30 minutes of practice time. No "peak" to get over in the first few laps, and no power decline through the entire run - just consistent power lap after lap for a half an hour. I don't know about you guys, but that much practice time is like GOLD for me.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:26 AM   #22818
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My other favorite feature about it is that I can show up to the track early on race day, or on a practice day and run a solid and continuous 30 minutes of practice time. No "peak" to get over in the first few laps, and no power decline through the entire run - just consistent power lap after lap for a half an hour. I don't know about you guys, but that much practice time is like GOLD for me.
Your tires must seriously hate you Shawn
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:31 AM   #22819
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My other favorite feature about it is that I can show up to the track early on race day, or on a practice day and run a solid and continuous 30 minutes of practice time. No "peak" to get over in the first few laps, and no power decline through the entire run - just consistent power lap after lap for a half an hour. I don't know about you guys, but that much practice time is like GOLD for me.
They are going to have to make either a bigger drivers stand or limit practice times...... Can you imagine trying to get some practice in if everybody stayed on the stand for 30 minutes for practice ?
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Your tires must seriously hate you Shawn
i think his Mi3 feels the same way!!!
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:54 AM   #22821
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Randy - LOL!!!
I try to run tires a compound or two higher than they need to be to help with wear and provide more consistency if I'm going to be on the track the whole time.

Another thing I'm doing recently is changing something on the setup every 5 mins or so, so the tires and motor can cool down a bit. Change something, run for 5, change that back and change something else, and etc. All the while making mental and/or written notes on what everything does to the handling and to what magnitude. It's nice to pull off, add a shim or two, and get right back on with the exact same horsepower you just had. You can learn TONS about the car and the setup in a very short period of time like that.

I also change something between actual races. That way if I go the wrong way and the car isn't so good, I've still got to drive through it and finish the race so it's good general driving training as well!
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:03 AM   #22822
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LOL McGoo!
My Mi3 certainly has a lot of hard miles on it, and there are lots more to come as well with Speed Passion testing set to continue in full force shortly.

Also - GASP!

I'll be hitting the local dirt oval track tonight with the Mi3

Adam's so upset about it I think he may actually cry a little during the first few laps....

He's never run dirt oval before, so I'm going to get him a few hotlaps with some good cars on the track before the night is over. He might be a changed man come Monday folks!

Well now that I've blown all my credibility with everyone on this thread, it's time to go back to work! LOL
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:19 AM   #22823
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LOL McGoo!
Also - GASP!

I'll be hitting the local dirt oval track tonight with the Mi3

LOL
I think I just throwup a little in my mouth!!
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:27 AM   #22824
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Randy - LOL!!!
I try to run tires a compound or two higher than they need to be to help with wear and provide more consistency if I'm going to be on the track the whole time.

Another thing I'm doing recently is changing something on the setup every 5 mins or so, so the tires and motor can cool down a bit. Change something, run for 5, change that back and change something else, and etc. All the while making mental and/or written notes on what everything does to the handling and to what magnitude. It's nice to pull off, add a shim or two, and get right back on with the exact same horsepower you just had. You can learn TONS about the car and the setup in a very short period of time like that.

I also change something between actual races. That way if I go the wrong way and the car isn't so good, I've still got to drive through it and finish the race so it's good general driving training as well!
I think one the most important reasons for using the Lipo/Brushless technology is how much easier the hobby becomes as well as innexpensive.

A)Easier- if the 10 drivers go to practice w/ 10.5 or 13.5 motors, and Lipo, then everyone is got pretty much the same power/speed, which evens things out for everyone. having to deal with brushed motor tuning or nimh battery set up is a whole world in itself and which can be extremely furstrating and time consuming for new drivers. Brushless is very little maintanance compared to brushed systems, and much easier to set up
...so is Lipo.

B) Innexpensive- if you're running 13.5 and 10.5 classes, you can get 16-17minutes of run time per 5000mah CORE Lipo pack on 10.5 BL, and 19-21 on 13.5 BL motors and LIPO. You can easily run 3 five minute quals on 1 pack on 10.5BL, and 4 or 5 on 13.5! All you need to bring to the track is your ICE charger(or whatever charger you use for your Lipo), and your one Core RC pack (Or Orion 4800 pack/ Maxamps, etc). No nimh cell dischargers, conditioner, shampoo, etc, and all those other gadgets, besides at least 3 good nimh packs, which can easily cost you $60-65 for the good ones, which put you at over $180 for those 3 nimh cell packs + another $150 for a decent discharger and conditioner, etc; Lipo is only $130-$140 for the good CORE rc 5000 packs or Orion 4800 packs, (Or MaxMaps 6000 HV packs are only $99-which makes them good practice packs). You really need only one Core RC Lipo, and it will outlast and out perform the 3 nimh packs, which deteriorate ad much faster rate than good Lipos...

theres much more to be said...but for the wise these bits should suffice
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:18 AM   #22825
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after using the core rc i practically gave away all my nimh!! i also got rid of my soldering iron with brushless/lipo (with deans) no need to solder anythingwith these i can change motors in less than a minute
Not pretty, but thats a damn good idea
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:23 AM   #22826
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Another thing I'm doing recently is changing something on the setup every 5 mins or so, so the tires and motor can cool down a bit. Change something, run for 5, change that back and change something else, and etc. All the while making mental and/or written notes on what everything does to the handling and to what magnitude. It's nice to pull off, add a shim or two, and get right back on with the exact same horsepower you just had. You can learn TONS about the car and the setup in a very short period of time like that.
Man that sounds like fun!!!!!!!!!!

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I'll be hitting the local dirt oval track tonight with the Mi3

Adam's so upset about it I think he may actually cry a little during the first few laps....

He's never run dirt oval before, so I'm going to get him a few hotlaps with some good cars on the track before the night is over. He might be a changed man come Monday folks!

Well now that I've blown all my credibility with everyone on this thread, it's time to go back to work! LOL

Oval is fun, especially with a good car and good drivers. I might not have touched an oval car since July, but I'm still an oval racer at heart! LOL
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:40 AM   #22827
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The spool in the front of the car will take away alittle entry steering, but will give you more on-power steering coming out of the corner.

Racers use this on asphalt tracks alot.

He's just messing about he said. So that might be a bit much information.

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Old 11-02-2007, 09:49 AM   #22828
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I'm not sure what to make of it yet, but I'll take pictures to show you want NOT to do with a pro level tourer. I can believe that I'm going to run a MI-3 on dirt!

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Also - GASP!

I'll be hitting the local dirt oval track tonight with the Mi3

Adam's so upset about it I think he may actually cry a little during the first few laps....

He's never run dirt oval before, so I'm going to get him a few hotlaps with some good cars on the track before the night is over. He might be a changed man come Monday folks!
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:57 AM   #22829
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BK and Pooky have their bars . . .
PW has his bumpers . . .


Prototype Mi3 Kydex Bumper!

If it weren't for insomnia I'd never get anything done

At least I won't go through 5 packages of arms in a weekend again.

I am not done with the shape. I need to make sure both rubber and all foam tires clear the kydex and I am going to extend the sides a bit wider to protect the whels better. I also need to find a Pdub for an Mi3 to make sure it works. I have extra space for the thickness there already. I also need to smooth out the edges and se about getting this professionally cut in bulk somehwere. The holes will be thre for the body posts to go througtomorow or so. I'll keep y'all up to date. Hopefully I have it braced well enough against the bulkhead at the top and bottom that it doesn't pull the screws through the bottom of the chassis like the FK05 did. I thik that was a problem with how close the screws were to the edge of the CF though and the Mi3 doesn't seem to have that problem. I know one thing though . . . if I don't break it in testing, it won't be because I didn't try!!

Any comments and thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

ps. Mcgoo, do those red standoffs look familiar? lol

This is currently being beta tested by our own Steve "Magic" Marker in Omaha this weekend. Preliminary results are great. Steve says "Its the bomb"

We have widened it a bit and altered the way it mounts from the previous pictures. I'll let y'all know more as I know more. I am waiting on Steve for some pics currently with the new mounting.
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