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Old 09-10-2007, 02:45 PM   #21556
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wow. i am perplexed. i cut 0.050" off of mine, and they rub just a little.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:10 PM   #21557
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THansk for taking the time to explain all that. Ill be cutting some plastic and filling y'all in when I get home
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:22 PM   #21558
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I'll have to try it. It could have something to do with the amount of roll center shims and the shock tower positions too I suppose.

Was that with the lowered f. shock tower JB?
Sure is buddy I'm using Chris G's setup also but with some differences- lowered frt & rear shock towers, 2.5mm bottom, 50% rebound in the frt shocks AND third holes on the shock towers frt/rear. This set-up is pretty frickin' awesome so far on our low bite/no groove carpet. BTW, I'm runnin' Magentas on all 4 corners
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Yes I took 4mm off the short ball cups. Front shocks only. I use xray springs. I checked and it doesn't hit the the arms at all, even when compressed.
Ditto....
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:14 PM   #21560
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hey does any one know where i can get a pdf mi3 manual or a compiled word document version? downloading individual pages sucks
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:05 PM   #21561
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Sure is buddy I'm using Chris G's setup also but with some differences- lowered frt & rear shock towers, 2.5mm bottom, 50% rebound in the frt shocks AND third holes on the shock towers frt/rear. This set-up is pretty frickin' awesome so far on our low bite/no groove carpet. BTW, I'm runnin' Magentas on all 4 corners
I got it all together tonight. Heres what I found works perfectly . . .

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1 lowered shock tower
2 AE spring perches
2 xray springs
2 schumacher shocks
2 long ball grippa ball cups

Procedure:
Cut 2 ball grippa ball cups down to roughly 12 mm in total length(other sizes might also work but this is where I first cut them and they worked. See note at bottom **). Thread shortened ball grippas onto end of schumacher shocks until shock length is 61 mm fully extended from end of aluminum cap to end of ball grippa. This will require threading the shock shaft almost all the way into theball grippas. Install lowered shock tower, xray springs and ae spring perches. Install 60 mm pro 53 Parma magentas onto Mi3. Turn shock collars to acheive ride height. Set droop. Enjoy newly instaled lowered shock tower with foam appropriate ride height. FYI io checked ride height with all the new shock positions and I could get any ride height and droop combo I'd ever want with the above setup. From 0-5 mm droop and 2-8 mm RH with
59-60 ish mm tires

** The short ball grippas that come with the kit for the shocks are about 14.3 mm long end to end. A standard ball grippas (the ones used elsewhere on the car) are 19 mm long end to end. I chose to cut down longer ball grippas so I would always have the 14.3 mm kit ball cups to use when I go back to rubber tires. In the end I think Seaball had it right about the cups needing to be about 1 mm shorter than the kit shock ball cups. That would give a ball cup that is about 13 mm long. I don't doubt that JB's 10 mm ball cups also work, but I also can't see how his AE perches are not resting on the arm. I can tell that mine are actually resting on the arm at one point in the suspension travel. If it becomes a problem Ill just shim it back to the corect length as seaball suggested. In moving the suspension through its travel I don't think the cup moves enough for ME to worry about it. We'll se once I get it onthe track though. If I get a weird tweak I'll know why

Shoot me any questions ya got. Its kinda alte so I probably didn't exp[lain this as well as I coulldve.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:22 AM   #21562
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I don't doubt that JB's 10 mm ball cups also work, but I also can't see how his AE perches are not resting on the arm.
Actually buddy my ball grippas are 11.5mm. My perches do rest a tad on the arm at rest but with the two times I've been at the track- no problems.....YET! I'll keep a close eye on it though
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:15 AM   #21563
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Default shock bushing and washer

got a silly question.
I lost one of the Spacer Mouldings ...
the little plastic piece that goes on the upper screw shock mount, believe it's part number U613.

Question, is there something else I can use instead of the shui part.
Just looking for an option.
Do the TC5 shock bushings fit or any another options.

ohh..almost forgot....I have a bent axle/CVD pin ....shui is out of stock...does any other brand fit the axle?



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Old 09-11-2007, 07:55 AM   #21564
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What's the part number for the Tamiya yellow springs PW and others used for on-road?

Tower has some tamiya Yellow springs but I just want to make sure they are the correct ones: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFAD6&P=7
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:47 AM   #21565
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What's the part number for the Tamiya yellow springs PW and others used for on-road?

Tower has some tamiya Yellow springs but I just want to make sure they are the correct ones: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFAD6&P=7
Don't tell him; he is trying to put them on his new Serpent car!!!


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PW - On your setup, with the 3rd hole in the front hubs, do you literally drill a 3mm hole between the 2 existing holes? Just does not look like a lot of meat there.
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PW - On your setup, with the 3rd hole in the front hubs, do you literally drill a 3mm hole between the 2 existing holes? Just does not look like a lot of meat there.
Yeah he did you have to be perfectly dead center and you will actually go a little into the other two hole it will look like its scalpeled kind of like the shock tower holes. Hope this helps.

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Old 09-11-2007, 09:22 AM   #21568
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PW - On your setup, with the 3rd hole in the front hubs, do you literally drill a 3mm hole between the 2 existing holes? Just does not look like a lot of meat there.
You'd actually want to use a 2.5mm drill bit so that you can thread the ballcup through rather than having it just slide through.
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Actually buddy my ball grippas are 11.5mm. My perches do rest a tad on the arm at rest but with the two times I've been at the track- no problems.....YET! I'll keep a close eye on it though
Got it. I just got 10 mm from you saying you took 4 mm off from the shorter ball cups which measured about 14 mm on my car. In the end all that matters is that you have a cup thats roughly 11-12-13 mm. I am a bit bewildred as to how you got your shock length down to 59.5 mm though. I couldn't get past 60.5 with the cup threaded as far in as I coud get it. Weird . . .
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Don't tell him; he is trying to put them on his new Serpent car!!!
LOL...j/k
That's cold, PW...I got a new Mi3 comming in this week...but they are going to also be run a Sepernt S400..
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