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Old 07-20-2007, 08:50 PM   #20896
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can U still help ? I will be running stock rubber
I've never raced rubber tires on carpet, the one time I tried to everyone decided to run foam lol. But I'm sure I can come out and take a look at your car and see what might help.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:54 PM   #20897
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ok thanks I will be going to trackside for the iic warm-up race ..it will be the 1st time I get to run it ....
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:53 PM   #20898
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I'll try to hit the carpet track with a rubber tire car a few times before Vegas so my setup advice won't be totally useless..
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:31 PM   #20899
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Castrater- Was the track for the nationals a lot like SoCal?
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:40 PM   #20900
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Castrater- Was the track for the nationals a lot like SoCal?
Nope, felt like twice the amount of grip to me..
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:06 AM   #20901
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Great day of racing with the MI3. Was at The Battle of the Bowl race yesturday on a very bumpy asphalt track. You need 6mm ride height minimum to only scrap the chassis a little. I had 6mm reight height and 4mm droop on my car for the bumps and my car was pretty dialed all day from then on.

Schumacher MI3's finished 1st and 2nd in the A main along with TQ and fastest stock lap in stock. Great day overall.

Pos. Car Driver's Name Total Laps Total Time Fastest Lap On Lap Avg. Speed Status
1 2 Reigle, Brian 22 00:05:01.142 00:13.134 2 15.192 Done! (Schuie MI3)
2 7 Walter, Steve 22 00:05:13.853 00:13.713 3 14.577 Done! (Schuie MI3)
3 4 Castleman, Casey 21 00:05:01.568 00:13.525 17 14.481 Done!
4 6 Hearld Sr, Michael 21 00:05:05.221 00:13.518 6 14.308 Done!
5 1 Kao, Victor 21 00:05:07.549 00:13.695 3 14.200 Done!
6 5 David, Andy 21 00:05:08.960 00:13.544 6 14.135 Done!
7 3 Sustello, Dave 21 00:05:10.549 00:13.681 3 14.062 Done!
8 9 Juskelis, Matt 20 00:05:05.465 00:13.957 2 13.616 Done!
9 8 Check, Edward 20 00:05:07.186 00:13.335 10 13.539 Done!
10 10 Senn, Mike 19 00:05:02.388 00:14.611 12 13.066 Done!
11 11 Schneese, Miles 19 00:05:07.706 00:14.728 8 12.841 Done
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Great day of racing with the MI3. Was at The Battle of the Bowl race yesturday on a very bumpy asphalt track. You need 6mm ride height minimum to only scrap the chassis a little. I had 6mm reight height and 4mm droop on my car for the bumps and my car was pretty dialed all day from then on.

Schumacher MI3's finished 1st and 2nd in the A main along with TQ and fastest stock lap in stock. Great day overall.

Pos. Car Driver's Name Total Laps Total Time Fastest Lap On Lap Avg. Speed Status
1 2 Reigle, Brian 22 00:05:01.142 00:13.134 2 15.192 Done! (Schuie MI3)
2 7 Walter, Steve 22 00:05:13.853 00:13.713 3 14.577 Done! (Schuie MI3)
3 4 Castleman, Casey 21 00:05:01.568 00:13.525 17 14.481 Done!
4 6 Hearld Sr, Michael 21 00:05:05.221 00:13.518 6 14.308 Done!
5 1 Kao, Victor 21 00:05:07.549 00:13.695 3 14.200 Done!
6 5 David, Andy 21 00:05:08.960 00:13.544 6 14.135 Done!
7 3 Sustello, Dave 21 00:05:10.549 00:13.681 3 14.062 Done!
8 9 Juskelis, Matt 20 00:05:05.465 00:13.957 2 13.616 Done!
9 8 Check, Edward 20 00:05:07.186 00:13.335 10 13.539 Done!
10 10 Senn, Mike 19 00:05:02.388 00:14.611 12 13.066 Done!
11 11 Schneese, Miles 19 00:05:07.706 00:14.728 8 12.841 Done
Congrat's Brian on your TQ, win and fastest lap. You sure did wheel the car all weekend.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:24 AM   #20903
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Great job guys!
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:52 AM   #20904
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Great day of racing with the MI3. Was at The Battle of the Bowl race yesturday on a very bumpy asphalt track. You need 6mm ride height minimum to only scrap the chassis a little. I had 6mm reight height and 4mm droop on my car for the bumps and my car was pretty dialed all day from then on.

Schumacher MI3's finished 1st and 2nd in the A main along with TQ and fastest stock lap in stock. Great day overall.

Pos. Car Driver's Name Total Laps Total Time Fastest Lap On Lap Avg. Speed Status
1 2 Reigle, Brian 22 00:05:01.142 00:13.134 2 15.192 Done! (Schuie MI3)
2 7 Walter, Steve 22 00:05:13.853 00:13.713 3 14.577 Done! (Schuie MI3)
3 4 Castleman, Casey 21 00:05:01.568 00:13.525 17 14.481 Done!
4 6 Hearld Sr, Michael 21 00:05:05.221 00:13.518 6 14.308 Done!
5 1 Kao, Victor 21 00:05:07.549 00:13.695 3 14.200 Done!
6 5 David, Andy 21 00:05:08.960 00:13.544 6 14.135 Done!
7 3 Sustello, Dave 21 00:05:10.549 00:13.681 3 14.062 Done!
8 9 Juskelis, Matt 20 00:05:05.465 00:13.957 2 13.616 Done!
9 8 Check, Edward 20 00:05:07.186 00:13.335 10 13.539 Done!
10 10 Senn, Mike 19 00:05:02.388 00:14.611 12 13.066 Done!
11 11 Schneese, Miles 19 00:05:07.706 00:14.728 8 12.841 Done
Please send me or post your setup
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:16 AM   #20905
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Please send me or post your setup
When I get home tonight I will get it all written down and post it. The track is very bumpy and like no other place I run. Lets say 6mm minimum ride height.......any lower and you where sanding your chassis and not in a good way. The more droop the better. I had to lengthen the shock bottoms two turns to get the droop I needed.
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Are there any foam carpet setups for the Mi3 aside from the one in the manual?
Orlando-what were you running at Horsham? Whats the grip like there?
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:58 PM   #20907
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I'll be looking for a base foam tire setup soon too Gotta start practicing for Vegas.
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#1 carpet

I developed this setup over a full day of carpet testing at Horsham RC. Track was set-up very tight. may need a little more work, but a good starting point

#2 asphalt

I worked on this one over a couple days at the mushroom bowl (track gets 4-5 really good runs on RP30s). car was locked down with awesome steering. highly recommended.

Both were 19T setups, but could probably be useful for mod also. May be too aggressive for stock, but if you happen to try them, please give me some feedback
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:44 PM   #20909
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Randy, At the Nats. when you went stiffer with your setup did the car end up feeling more planted and in effect gave you more steering?
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:27 PM   #20910
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Randy, At the Nats. when you went stiffer with your setup did the car end up feeling more planted and in effect gave you more steering?
Actually I stiffened the springs up at the same time that I made a change from the 5 cell to the 6 cell chassis and completely changed my entire setup, so I never just stiffened the springs alone. However my car with the softer springs had too much roll, which made it sluggish in all of the tight turns, stiffening it up crispened up the steering and made the car react faster. I also went from 40 to 50wt oil in the front end to try to get it to transition even less weight to that end, and make it a hair less twitchy and easier to drive.
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