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Old 04-23-2002, 08:10 AM   #1921
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Jonski: The diff adjusting screw should be on the lsft side of the car. It doesn't really matter with the Mission, however, since the diff locks in that car.


In the past, I always cut 2mm off the ball grippa on the shocks so there would be easier to set the ride heigth to where I wanted it. Haven't had to do that on the Mission, but that would solve the ride heigth problem since the shock collors would sit lower on the grippa.
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Old 04-23-2002, 11:34 AM   #1922
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We're running 7.28 in stock on a short carpet track, 9.30 in mod with a 10T1 and the 20T pulley.

Just love the Mission... Purplonium and all.
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Old 04-23-2002, 12:20 PM   #1923
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We're running 7.28 in stock on a short carpet track, 9.30 in mod with a 10T1 and the 20T pulley.

Just love the Mission... Purplonium and all.
Thats the 'final ratio' like in the manual for the 20t pulley?

Does the motor get hot?
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Old 04-23-2002, 02:31 PM   #1924
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Yes it's the final ratio.

We are using the 20t pulley so that the 1.80 internal ratio. We are running a 93T spur 48P. The mod motor is rather cool. We are using the Luna 10 turn single-wow it's nice. I think we will go closer to 10.0 because we're cutting it to close on run time.

The stock motor gets hot but not unusually so, if we go to a lower final ratio the brushes will get too hot in stock and the car is sluggish in the short corners.

BTW We are running one car with the Losi shock shaft and pistons. The shocks are ultra smooth with this combination but we have not noticed any major difference on the track yet between the two cars.
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Old 04-23-2002, 04:33 PM   #1925
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Running at 7.28, the motor should be pretty cool. I'm running at 6.192 and mine still doesn't get too hot.
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Old 04-23-2002, 05:20 PM   #1926
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Hey guys, I should be getting some track time this weekend at the venue for an upcoming state titles, it is fairly technical, with low traction, due to some issues with either dust or dampness depending on the weather it is always one or the other...

any suggestions to try with the mission setup?..

I am currently running:
Front:

Blue spring
50 weight. 3 hole vari piston
2nd hole on tower
inner hole on arms
numer 2 on hubs
lower mount on camberlink bulkhead
swaybar
5 mm ride height
4 mm droop
2 deg inboard toe/ 0 outboard toe
front oneway
Take Off 27, medium insert

Rear:
50 weight. 3 hole vari piston
3rd hole on tower
inner hole on arms
numer 2 on hubs
lower mount on camberlink bulkhead
swaybar
6 mm ride height
4 mm droop
2 deg inboard toe in / 2 degree outboard toe in
Take Off 27, medium insert....


This setup has been found to provide great steering with good stability/predictability at our local track...I think it should be pretty spot on for this other track, but was wondering if any of you had some usefull feedback as to things to try in low traction, (other than the obvious softer springs/oil)

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Old 04-23-2002, 05:25 PM   #1927
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Hey King-G... Although I'm running an Axis2, I run on a low- medium bite track...My setup is similar to yours, but I'm running 60Wt with the 2-hole one piece pistons. I ran with the arms in the lower hole on the bulkheads for a couple of weeks, but just couldn't get the car where I liked it...I moved the camberlinks to the upper position, and boom...car handles like a dream...everyones driving style is different, but it may be worth a try...you may like it better...if not, it's a pretty quick change...

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Thanks for the information guys.

Keep up the great thread.

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Old 04-23-2002, 07:48 PM   #1929
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yeah the upper link would allow less camber change, but more body roll, it could be a trade off...but I will try it..

I reckon the U.K drivers would have the best setups for slippery conditions...will have to ask Chris and the guys from the Schumacher factory.

thanks for the input..

also, does everyone run the medium insert provided with the takeoff tires?..

traction is good and consistant, but premeture tire wear due to the ribbing of the inside of the tire is a problem...wondering if anyone has used an insert which supports the sidewalls a little better, perhaps preventing this
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We generally run lower bulkhead holes.

Standard set-up at the moment is 55wt oil, 3 holes, red springs. shocks mounted on inner hole on arm, 2nd from outer on mount. in-line hubs front, std offset hubs rear. arm swaying out front with 2 deg inboard toe on rear.
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Matt-We are pretty close to that setup. Lower bulkhead holes seem to generate mor grip so we run those. Your shocks are almost vertical then? That would create quite adirect feeling car? Might have to try that. Also the inline hub on the front im sure increases immediate turnin quite a bit. Not so sure about the red springs in low-med traction conditions. I like to induce some roll.
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Chris, yes all of your assumptions are correct. Seems fine on what we considder low traction. Our first national was on a fairly low grip track and it was cold during the weekend. We were using TO CS22 tyres.
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When and why would you run inboard toe or no inboard toe? I run carpet with rubber tires.
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Ottoman.....I tried the rear inboard toe and all it seemed to me is like it shortend the rear arms up. It felt like when you run the rear arms all the way forward. It gives the rear end more grip because more weight is over the back end. It also efects the angle of the drive shafts which can offer more forward traction when angled forward and more side bite when angled backwards. In the front the toe out makes the car lazzy IMHO, but the car is very easy to drive. In the front it will also add more castor when you change to it. What I have done lately on carpet is run the rear all the way back with zero inboard toe and in the front run them all the way forward with zero inboard toe. This to me felt the best and also makes the bodies fit better, so you dont have to cut into the rear door to have enough clearance.
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Hi
I will be getting a mission in the future and would like to see some pics of your guys cars and is there anything I should buy right off the batt?


THanks TeamAE(now on a MISSION from god)
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