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Old 05-01-2007, 06:28 AM   #18571
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Jon uses DSM so I'm thinking he is just using the mount as the locknut
Thats one big ole' lock nut! Come on Jon, dig through that parts box and find a real lock nut.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:40 AM   #18572
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Just a Question on the top deck: the old Mi2EC has the common long and big top deck...the MI3 has a thin and short top deck...why? What have you found about running the short/thin version of the top deck vs the old longer versions? What tests/research has been done that swayed Schumacher to adopt this style of top deck?
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:43 AM   #18573
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Well, the DSM antenna on the micro receiver is a little longer than on the larger receiver so I was going to try and route it and have a shorty antenna sticking up. But it was still too short to do it safely. So I will be replacing the mount with a regular nut and washer. I just needed to go to bed last night.

Oh and over summer when you're running a 7x1 in parts of SoCal where it's 100+ air temp and 160+ track temp, those fans come in handy.
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Old 05-01-2007, 07:59 AM   #18574
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Hey guys. What's your opinion on the durability of the Mi2 compared to the Xray T2007 that I currently drive and do you thing the Mi3 will be any more or less durable? The arms strike me as somewhat fragile looking.

The ability to easily place the Orion 4800 Lipo into the Mi3 has really grabbed my attention. If the car is too fragile, however, it may not be the car for me. I'm no slouch driver but I still hit stuff when trying to drive a tight line. I've only been racing for about a year now.

Also, what's the spare parts availability like? My LHS doesn't stock any Schui stuff so I'd have to stock my own spares. Where's a good place to buy Schumacher parts and cars online?

Sorry, lots of questions.
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...Where's a good place to buy Schumacher parts and cars online?....
when they have arrived...try this shop: www.speedtechrc.com
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SlamMan.....The arms are some of the hardest to break out there....over the last 2 season I have only have about 3 or 4 arm faliures. We end up replacing them b/c of slop then because they are broken. The Mi3 is still new and has not been driven by many average drivers yet so its hard to say how it will be as far as breaking goes. If its like the MI2Ec then it wont break very often.....no car survives full speed wrecks but the MI2 walks away from most more often then others IMO.

Schumacher USA has most everything in stock and you can order direct from them online or over the phone......you can also have your local track contact them and have them order from them as well.
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Hey guys. What's your opinion on the durability of the Mi2 compared to the Xray T2007 that I currently drive and do you thing the Mi3 will be any more or less durable? The arms strike me as somewhat fragile looking.

The ability to easily place the Orion 4800 Lipo into the Mi3 has really grabbed my attention. If the car is too fragile, however, it may not be the car for me. I'm no slouch driver but I still hit stuff when trying to drive a tight line. I've only been racing for about a year now.

Also, what's the spare parts availability like? My LHS doesn't stock any Schui stuff so I'd have to stock my own spares. Where's a good place to buy Schumacher parts and cars online?

Sorry, lots of questions.
Car is so new so you have to wait and hear from the racer report about Mi3...but I can tell you about my Mi2EC. And like you, 1st thing I saw are those skinny looking arms...so thin and not BOLD....that totally fooled me. I have the car almost 2 years now...raced 20 plus time on carpet and yes, I crashed a lot...HARD. Believe it or not...the only parts I broke on this TANK are the CVD little pins inside.....not 1 single front arm, or rear arm broken...I have 4 pairs of front CF arm and rear arms sitting in my pit box since day one, never have the changes to use it. I might I will replace them JUST because the white letter on the arm marked "CF" is faded out now...Just like Kevin mentioned, we replace arm simply because its time to replace it.

Eariler in Mi3 design stage, Schumacher mentioned Mi3 can use Mi2 arms, they are very similar (almost the same) except at the later stage they relocate the sway bar mounting location and made it a Mi3 unique arms...but if not using sway bar, I bet Mi2 arms will fit....

It is all engineering........thin does not mean they are less durable. Oh...1 must buy option, P-DUB...MUST HAVE.....saved me $100 of parts. (I am sure there is one making right now from P-DUB)

Schumacher USA is your 1st place to order parts.........just for the backup, http://www.schumacher-rc.com/ also work......
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some parts are in for the Mi3 are in, I got mine you gotta get yours
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AdrianM: Just a Question on the top deck: the old Mi2EC has the common long and big top deck...the MI3 has a thin and short top deck...why? What have you found about running the short/thin version of the top deck vs the old longer versions? What tests/research has been done that swayed Schumacher to adopt this style of top deck? I just want to understand the process of how Schumacher has decided that the short/small TD is the better way...just curius and wanting to learn...thanks
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Thanks, Kevin and Solara. I might be sold on the Mi3.

What spare parts do you future Mi3'ers plan to keep on hand?
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Just a Question on the top deck: the old Mi2EC has the common long and big top deck...the MI3 has a thin and short top deck...why? What have you found about running the short/thin version of the top deck vs the old longer versions? What tests/research has been done that swayed Schumacher to adopt this style of top deck?
My understanding is that touring cars usually work best with less flex in the rear than in the front. Plus you need uniform flex left to right. The EC with it's separate motor plate, layshaft mount, and rear bulkheads had a bit more flex in it than the longer rear bulkheads of the Mi3. Plus you get equal support and flex from side to side.
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I plan to run this car just on carpet what extras will i need to do so?
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There will be a 2.5mm chassis, sway bar kit, and heavier springs.
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There will be a 2.5mm chassis, sway bar kit, and heavier springs.
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I plan to run this car just on carpet what extras will i need to do so?
If you run rubber tires you will need a set of Take Off CS27GL or RP30GL tires and a can of the legal local traction compound. Everything else you need comes in the kit. The base setup for asphalt and carpet is the same. One ways are not used very often even on carpet anymore.

If you are running foam tires you will need a front diff, the stiffer 2.5mm lower chassis, springs in the 30-33lb range for the front and 17-25lb range in the rear and the appropriate foam tires use by the locals.
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