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Old 04-11-2002, 12:08 PM   #1801
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Our testing has shown that leaning the shocks out give more traction to that end because it allows the car to roll more, the shocks leaned in seem to make the car feel like it has more traction intially but then begins to wash out in the middle.
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Old 04-11-2002, 01:04 PM   #1802
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spooky: I got the carbon Mission (K027G).
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Old 04-11-2002, 03:40 PM   #1803
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The standard Schuie axles (composite) ARE cvd "style" axles, with the exception of the blades on the diff side of the bones. Trust me I have built and rebuilt over 20 pairs of cvd axles and the axle side is a dead on ringer for the MIP stuff.
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Heres a look at my new Mission
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Heres a look at the diff with the black belt guides.
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Old 04-12-2002, 12:53 AM   #1806
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nice one Darkseid, yeah the newer batches have had teh black pulley guides..I reckon they look sweet..and my new oneway has em too...

when did you get the mission?..did you make the switch at the same time as me?...

it is odd your carbon kit came with yellow springs?...grab 2 packets fo the spring sets...they are megga cheap and include all the springs bar
the silvers...

we run the blue springs and find them to be spot on for outdoor asphalt..

love my mission!, already after only 3 runs with teh car, and no oneway I went 7 seconds faster than the c4.1

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"Be a dead ringer"... I had to check that on the diccionary! The Schuie plastic axle's outer joint isnot like the MIP cvd. It doesn't even work the same way. If you don't believe me, try it. rotate the axle with a constant angular speed with the joint bent to an angle. The other end of the axle does surtainly not rotate with a constant velocity (CVD = Constant Velocity Joint), but accelerates and deccalerates in a pulsating way. CVDs don't do that. Only the bone part of the driveaxles are similar in appearence or "dead ringers". ;-)
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Old 04-12-2002, 08:44 AM   #1808
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Hi Guys...I asked before, but I think it got passed up...What affect does moving the upper inner hinge pin mount on the Bulkheads have?? I moved mine from Position#2 to #1, and it made a whole different car...does anyone know the explanation of this adjustment?

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Hey Ron sure wish I could help you. I know lowering causes some binding and i had to do some filing.
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King-G: I got mine only a few days ago. So I'm sure it was from the latest batch of kits. That would probably explain the differences.

Even though the Corally was my main car, I always had a Schumacher as back up. So I'm well stocked in the shock spring department. I can go to all blues or any combonation I need to. On all my other Schumacher cars I have run Yellow fronts and Red rears. But I'm open to trying all Blues if everyone thinks it is a better setup.

The only thing the standard Schumacher axles have in common with authentic CVDs is the dome look at the axle end. The actual insides work nothing alike. There is no pin or grub screw or anything like that. They work just like normal universals, except they have the domed end. But "CVD like", they are not.
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AZ_Ron: heres what the Schumacher manual says:

The upper hole makes the car smooth and predictable. The lower hole can offer better grip, but with a much less predictable breakaway.

I know, doesn't help much does it?

All I know is that it changes the role center of the car. But thats about the extent of my knowledge about it. But if it helped your car handle better after the switch then why ask why!
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AZ Ron.....The Lower hole offers more camber change so the car will have good grip going into the corner then loose some as the camber increases. If this made your car better you might not be running enough static camber. Also when you go to the lower holes make sure that the arm is moving free in its full range of motion, it may bind a little on the suspensions mount and on the hub if you run the inline pos. The lower pos works well when there is a lot of grip in the track it will also help if the car is flippin over/traction rolling, as more camber cuts traction in the tires.
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Darkseid-Hmm...Carbons are supposed to come with blue springs and S1's with yellows. I suppose there might have been a running change but no one mentioned this to me...lol! I'll gave to check some boxes on Monday.

This how you can spot the true Schuey die hards. The very 1st batch of cars had white pully fences. All current cars have black ones. You had to have called and put a Mission on backorder the week after the Chicago show in order to have been far enough up on the list of backorders to get a 1st run car. The color change was made because UK thought the black looked better but they still had some white plastic laying around so they used it up. The plastic is the same just diffrent colors.

To all-The Kinetix guys in Austin have led the charge in the softer is better setups. So far they have been right on the money. On asphalt run grey or blue springs all around with 45wt 2 holes to start w/ stock swaybars front and rear and go from there (shocks in the # 2 hole on the towers).
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I have also been running pretty soft, I have a blue/black combo and the car feels better then the blue/blue. 45t oil all around.
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