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Old 09-27-2006, 12:32 PM   #16156
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hi ive got a carpet seris coming up and i was wondering if anyone can help me out
its rubber cs-22
my mi2ec and the tracks indoor hi grip carpet
thanks in adv it will be very much appresiated
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Looks like the setup above would be a good start, or Kevin Brunsdens Carpet wars setup.

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Old 09-27-2006, 12:36 PM   #16157
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i know waylin likes his rubber to foam lol
what circuit was that done on?
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:39 PM   #16158
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Great job to Weylin and all other Schumacher drivers at the IIC race.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:17 PM   #16159
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Of everything on thatcar what would you suggest changing if we wanted to get rid of some of the steering?

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First thing I'd do is either go to a silver sway bar or raise the front roll center .5mm. Depends on if the car is loose or has too much steering.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:16 PM   #16160
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At the IIC (med bite) the car had more of an oversteer than loose feeling. By that I mean the car was super locked in unless you turned the wheel hard, then it would break free pretty hard (not a very controllable slide), which is why I could pivot it around the 180 or something if I needed. Which is why I said the setup is dialed if you like lots of steering, it allows you to put it where ever you want it. Here are some things I would try though to tighten up the rear end or make any slide more controllable.

-first, just sauce less front tire (I did 1/2, try 1/4)
-stand rear shocks up one hole
-change rear WB to med/long instead of med/short or longer even
-raise rear hinge pin .5 or 1mm and go to silver rear bar so the suspension pressures the rear tire more instead of rolling as much, and then the silver bar will allow the rear end to roll more. Do these 2 changes at the same time.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:11 AM   #16161
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I think that this is right. Weylin, let me know if it isn't and a big congrats!
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Old 09-30-2006, 02:21 AM   #16162
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Yep, that's all correct except for one thing. That setup sheet is on the EC foam spec car, where I was running the asphalt towers. So on the carpet towers pictured on that setup sheet the rear shocks would be 2 holes farther in. Or on the asphalt towers that I ran, the shocks would be in the 3rd hole in from the outside.
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:13 AM   #16163
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Yep, that's all correct except for one thing. That setup sheet is on the EC foam spec car, where I was running the asphalt towers. So on the carpet towers pictured on that setup sheet the rear shocks would be 2 holes farther in. Or on the asphalt towers that I ran, the shocks would be in the 3rd hole in from the outside.
I understand the reason for running the asphalt top deck (more flexibility as you were not on foams?) but why the asphalts towers, especially as a lot of people are now running the carpet towers on the asphalt chassis.

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Question for the masses:

When you remove the raiser plate from under the diffs; I'm assuming this means that you are also removing the raiser plates that sit directly under the top deck to accomodate, is that correct? If that is the case what happens to the washer under the servo assembly that comes up through the top deck? I'm not sure that there is enough space there to run this spacer and hafe a lower top deck.

If you guys have anything i should look out for when making this conversion please let me know. I'll like to try this setup for tomorrows club race.

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Question for the masses:

When you remove the raiser plate from under the diffs; I'm assuming this means that you are also removing the raiser plates that sit directly under the top deck to accomodate, is that correct? If that is the case what happens to the washer under the servo assembly that comes up through the top deck? I'm not sure that there is enough space there to run this spacer and hafe a lower top deck.

If you guys have anything i should look out for when making this conversion please let me know. I'll like to try this setup for tomorrows club race.

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You have to remove that plastic washer so that the head of that long screw still sits in line with the top deck.

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Thats what i thought. I was just trying to vision the change so i dont run into anything I'm not expecting. Have you tried this setup by the way? Did you have much success with it? And how are you guys acheiving 2.75 roll center as mentioned [HERE].
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I understand the reason for running the asphalt top deck (more flexibility as you were not on foams?) but why the asphalts towers, especially as a lot of people are now running the carpet towers on the asphalt chassis.

Stop trying to confuse me

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Basically, he's running a rubber tire car with the foam car chassis.
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Thats what i thought. I was just trying to vision the change so i dont run into anything I'm not expecting. Have you tried this setup by the way? Did you have much success with it? And how are you guys acheiving 2.75 roll center as mentioned [HERE].
I haven't tried that exact setup. To get the 2.75mm roll center I'd use the riser plates for the pivot blocks plus a .75mm shim under each block.
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Ok. Thanks.
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Basically, he's running a rubber tire car with the foam car chassis.
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